American Eagle pilot tries to amuse his passengers and fails
Once the plane landed, passengers whipped out their mobile phones
Call it a test --- whether sudden multiple simultaneous passenger cell phone use while the aircraft is on final approach can cause any risk to navigation.
Which was it ?
Bad taste anyway, what was the point ?
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I don't think I'd find it funny, but then I wouldn't share the joke with my lawyer either. Perhaps assign the pilot to guard the CRJs against TSA intrusion for a couple of nights as penance.
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Jokes are jokes. If cabin crew say that smoking is permitted outside of the aircraft during flight then its obviously a joke and I can understand and appreiciate that. To fool paying passengers into beleiving something that isnt true is unprofessional and of such an extent he doesnt deserve to be in charge of an aircraft with passengers on it ever again.
I would go further than that. If I say to airport staff or cabin crew that I have a bomb or was hijacking the aircraft even if I told them that I was joking I would expect to be locked up and criminal charges made. There are notices up in airports that say that any comment will be taken seriously even if made in jest. Dismissal is a light alternative to a criminal charge.
I would go further than that. If I say to airport staff or cabin crew that I have a bomb or was hijacking the aircraft even if I told them that I was joking I would expect to be locked up and criminal charges made. There are notices up in airports that say that any comment will be taken seriously even if made in jest. Dismissal is a light alternative to a criminal charge.
I think I have a pretty good sense of humour (I need it at work), but I wouldn't have been amused by this. Immature kindergarden humour. What are 5 year olds doing flying AA Eagle aeroplanes anyway?!
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What are 5 year olds doing flying AA Eagle aeroplanes anyway?!
On a similar theme - friend of mine on oil rigs on North Sea tells of a Helo flight from Aberdeen where the 20 burly and brave oilmen board the aircraft and take their seats. 10 minutes later one of the number starts complaining "Where's the ****ing pilot? Can't be that hard to fly this thing". He gets up into RH seat and starts the thing up and goes into the hover. 19 "tough" oilmen now sh**ing themselves until the guy strips off his survival suit to reveal his 4 stripes. He got the sack.....
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"It's like yelling fire in a crowded theater," said Hazan Arnoff, executive director of the 14th Street Y, a Jewish community center in Manhattan. He was visiting family and attending meetings in Cleveland.
You can die in a fire.. being the butt of a bad joke is not a calamity.. for many.
..........He gets up into RH seat and starts the thing up...........
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This thread started in R&N, but found it!
In answer to the OP, I would be a little miffed. However, I would not wish to take the matter further and put it down to a bit of devilment.
The joke itself was not that bad. Trouble is, any humor would have drained out of it after about 10 seconds. After that, many passengers would have been feeling worry, apprehension and for some, even dread.
Hopefully this FO can stick to his day job and from now on leave the comedy bits to the cabin crew.
"It's like yelling fire in a crowded theater," said Hazan Arnoff, executive director of the 14th Street Y, a Jewish community center in Manhattan. He was visiting family and attending meetings in Cleveland.
No, it isn't, you clown. That would likely cause a stampede and injure a bunch of people. This just pi$$ed people off.
I can see what the pilot was trying to do, inject a little levity into the situation, but fell flat on his face.
No, it isn't, you clown. That would likely cause a stampede and injure a bunch of people. This just pi$$ed people off.
I can see what the pilot was trying to do, inject a little levity into the situation, but fell flat on his face.
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Where's the Captain?
Not all FOs would do this, but some will. The individual with the most bars should have laid a bad joke to bed quick. My guess is that it was the FO playin' with the FA. Probably had 'em putting out toilet fires the previous flight, and something dumber yet on the one before that. Getting the pax involved was inconsiderate to say the least and proved to the crew who the dumbest really was...THE CAPTAIN (if they were aware); sometimes ya gotta use a little authority! Trying to break up a day of never ending delays with humor is a potentially good thing, but these "pranks" can be taken way too far as in this case.
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by VApilot2004:
Would take HEL in midwinter over IBZ anytime... reasons...? go and take a gander at both places...
BTT, humour as mentioned is an art of itself, except SLF expects to get the service they paid for WITHOUT any grief and worry. Attitude is the keyword in our business, it doesn't include giggly CCs in a galley nor incompehensible pranks (ie. a straight LIE) to PAX... This all adds to a secure feeling to our customers, who finance our mortgages.
Tea and biscuits with the Chief Pilot are in order and next time stay in what you know...
S
"I think the joke would have been much more effective had the flight been scheduled to land in IBZ and the fake diversion was HEL - in mid-winter. "
BTT, humour as mentioned is an art of itself, except SLF expects to get the service they paid for WITHOUT any grief and worry. Attitude is the keyword in our business, it doesn't include giggly CCs in a galley nor incompehensible pranks (ie. a straight LIE) to PAX... This all adds to a secure feeling to our customers, who finance our mortgages.
Tea and biscuits with the Chief Pilot are in order and next time stay in what you know...
S
Having handled diverts as a callow youth, 70-odd stressed businesspersons bearing down on one solitary ground agent, barely out of uni., I can assure you that they are not something to joke about.
Teesside, Leeds and Newcastle had their own unique microclimates.
Short flying times between them all meant very little warning of diversions.
One autumn night at Teesside, we had five "drop in" within the space of ten minutes, all at the end of a shift...
Teesside, Leeds and Newcastle had their own unique microclimates.
Short flying times between them all meant very little warning of diversions.
One autumn night at Teesside, we had five "drop in" within the space of ten minutes, all at the end of a shift...
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"Tea and biscuits with the Chief Pilot are in order and next time stay in what you know..."
Sorry, but no.
Not to correct this before the doors were opened was unforgivable and any line manager should take formal action against this pi**ock.
This guy needs to understand his basic responsibilities and only a formal process would deliver this. I don't advocate sacking but he should have no doubt about his stupidity.
I wonder how many flight crew on this forum would defend a SLF or security operative who thought they would have a bit of fun with an operating crew and did not correct it before the target person/people were affected? No, thought so.
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Sorry, but no.
Not to correct this before the doors were opened was unforgivable and any line manager should take formal action against this pi**ock.
This guy needs to understand his basic responsibilities and only a formal process would deliver this. I don't advocate sacking but he should have no doubt about his stupidity.
I wonder how many flight crew on this forum would defend a SLF or security operative who thought they would have a bit of fun with an operating crew and did not correct it before the target person/people were affected? No, thought so.
GH
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The blokes a prat, but then again how many of us have pulled a wheez like this in our careers ? A bollocking most certainly, but fire the bloke, NO.
Bet the punters who pulled their cell phones out won't admit it at the golf/tennis/gym etc to their chums! Being a prat is one thing, being taken in by one, and showing yourself to be one is a different matter perhaps!
Bet the punters who pulled their cell phones out won't admit it at the golf/tennis/gym etc to their chums! Being a prat is one thing, being taken in by one, and showing yourself to be one is a different matter perhaps!
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My guess is that it was the FO playin' with the FA.
No way he's ever getting into those panties
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I had a similar but more well managed situation on April 1st this year on an EZY flight from East Midlands to Schipol. Upon landing we were greeted with the usual 'welcome to ......... blah, blah, blah' speech from the cockpit but this time it was a little different when the captain or FO explained that due to fog at Schipol we'd diverted to Rotterdam. Cue lots of concerned looks on the faces of fellow passengers but before anyone had really had much chance to think of the consequences the PA crackled back into life with a merry 'and for those who had previously not noticed today's date is April 1st, welcome to Schipol.' 
