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Old 12th Sep 2006, 09:30
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Baby Wipes? What's the problem with those?

Hi All,

I was SLF through Edinburgh last week, and during security screening the (rather grumpy, although I probably would be too) security lassie would only let us take on one pack of baby wipes. She was insistent that we couldn't take two, mentioning something about rules in a mumbled tone. Anyway we went for the bigger pack as she gave us the choice.

She then discovered a tub of Sudocrem (a baby nappy rash cream - inert) and (uh-oh) a jar of vaseline .

I thought that was it for the vaseline, but then she said "you can only have one - which one do you want?". It was all I could do to not say "I'll have the highly flammable petroleum jelly please", and opted for the sudocrem.

She then dilligently confiscated the lip balm my wife had forgotten to take out of the bottom of the rucksack.

Needless to say, coming back from Mahon to Edinburgh, they didn't even bother checking the bags - too busy cooing over the baby!
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From this I can now deduce that the mysterious binary gel explosive that we're all waiting to hear about is actually *drum roll* -- an artful combination of Vaseline and Sudocrem.
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I would guess they are thinking about the fluid the baby wipes are kept in. Whether it makes sense or not, the security person is just doing his/her job.
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Originally Posted by slim_slag
I would guess they are thinking about the fluid the baby wipes are kept in. Whether it makes sense or not, the security person is just doing his/her job.
Yup - I don't doubt she was, but then again I was allowed to have the vaseline if I wanted it!

Just curious is all - there's nothing flammable in baby wipes these days so I just found it odd.
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I may be wrong but surely if you are allowed to take one through I don't see a problem with two! If its classed as a could be dangerous item then surely they shouldn't allow any.
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It simply demonstrates the lack of consistency and logic. Looks very much like the security job's worth like to impose their own little rules so that they can look important. So so frustrating for the average law abiding pax who is quite happy to cooperate but is constantly subjected to individual whims.
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What happens to the goodies they take from you? I wonder?
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Originally Posted by BRUpax
It simply demonstrates the lack of consistency and logic. Looks very much like the security job's worth like to impose their own little rules so that they can look important. So so frustrating for the average law abiding pax who is quite happy to cooperate but is constantly subjected to individual whims.
Yep , it sure does, and that type of inconsistancy and logic has been going on for the last 5 years too. The difference now is that the entire travelling public is beginning to see the stupidity of it all as opposed to only crew and FFs. I just hope that someone (or their family) with authority who can change this BS will get affected soon and things will change....but I dont hold out much hope.

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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:32
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Originally Posted by BRUpax
It simply demonstrates the lack of consistency and logic. Looks very much like the security job's worth like to impose their own little rules so that they can look important. So so frustrating for the average law abiding pax who is quite happy to cooperate but is constantly subjected to individual whims.
Definate lack of consistency, however, when some airports are letting through lipsticks and make up (manchester) and others are not (Gatwick etc), is it the airports that are imposing their own rules. Passengers who are regular travellers through a variety of airports are getting annoyed at security 'jobs worths' when the officers are only following their security managers instructions and their interpretation of the rules.

The Dft site says 'includes gels, pastes, lotions, liquid/solid mixtures and the contents of pressurised containers'.

So who is correct?


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From reading the Dft site, seems to me that the security at Edinburgh was giving you the benefit of being a parent and allowing you some items to take as a courteousy. What I have to ask is, if you knew they would be taken off you, why put them in in the first place?

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when some airports are letting through lipsticks and make up (manchester)
Lipstick and POWDER based make up only, nothing liquid based, including lip gloss, cream blusher, cream eyeshadow and so on.

Perhaps the baby had nappy rash and was dribbling a lot hence the need for sudocrem and vaseline. Sudocrem is for the nappy rash and vaseline on and under the chin helps to stop babys chin chapping.
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I would guess they are thinking about the fluid the baby wipes are kept in. Whether it makes sense or not, the security person is just doing his/her job

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Originally Posted by Polehill.flt70
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From reading the Dft site, seems to me that the security at Edinburgh was giving you the benefit of being a parent and allowing you some items to take as a courteousy. What I have to ask is, if you knew they would be taken off you, why put them in in the first place?
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Didn't see anything about baby wipes on the BAA site or any of the published guidlines. The vaseline and sudocrem was left in the bag accidentally - its our "standard" changing bag and in the rush to get off on holiday, they were left in there.

We didn't put them in on purpose, just to see!

But given they were there, and the vaseline was allowed through, I thought I'd mention it.
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Originally Posted by Final 3 Greens
I would guess they are thinking about the fluid the baby wipes are kept in. Whether it makes sense or not, the security person is just doing his/her job
Jawohl, behfel ist behfel.
I agree wholeheartedly, nothing wrong with doing the job, I was just wondering because if they did'nt want them to go on board, why let us take one pack and not the other? (mind you, I think the airline would have been a bit annoyed about the smell - our baby is quite pukey!). They were'nt in fluid, just moist in flat travel packs.
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Slopey,

I think you will find F3G was being ironic(note the German bit!) and that he meant the security decision (or lack of in this case!) was idiotic......

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An apology...

Slopey....

I feel as though I, and my wee family, are entirely to blame for your inconvenience. Let me expalin.

While also travelling through Edinburgh last week, I fear as though I may have come across the understandably grumpy security lassie too, and darkened her mood further!

We made similar mistakes. In our rush to escape for a warmer climate, we too packed baby creams, pre made SMA Gold and the dreaded baby wipes. Immediately after transitting the security machines and while in the midst of trying to get my belt and shoes back on in the right places, the surly one was already dismantling our baby bag.

The creams - an absolute no no, so off they went to be resold or more likely be at the centre of a controlled explosion.

The milk - obviously one of us had to drink these, so a big thank you to my wife as I find it tastes bloody awful. Although slightly aggrieved at this as it had been painstakingly sterilized etc, I do kinda understand this bit.

The wipes - after looking at them suspiciously, we were told out of the entire, brand new, unopened pack, that we were only allowed to take 4, four, yes //// wipes on board. Now then, Having been up very early to hustle a wife, a 2 and a half year old girl, and a 3 month old son out of the door is no easy task at the best of times, so admittedly, I was a little tired and maybe a tad grumpy myself. No excuse, but a reason for the sarcasm that followed. I enquired why and was told 'I dont make the rules sir, I only enforce them' which further got my back up. Something to do with the amount of liquid they hold blah blah blah. 'Bloody good job they're not let near children then as they appear to be so alarmingly dangerous, eh?' I muttered, walking away realising I had my shoes on the wrong feet and my trousers were falling down, while she mentioned something about a supervisor.

Dont get me wrong, I understand they're only doing a job, but there appears to be no consistency between the UK airports. As someone has already previously mentioned, we also transitted another airport, Gatwick, with the security staff checking what we had and letting us go through with everything in tact while cooing (a little too much!) over our kids. They have their mothers good looks!

Anyway, thank you for giving me the opportunity to bore you with my story, as I feel much better now, and I apologise again!
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I'm bemused that for my next trip in a couple of weeks time I have to go out and buy some matches as cigarettes lighters are not allowed on my person or in hand or hold baggage.

OK, if I travel with 'Swan Vesta' (non safety) matches then I'm not likely to be in a position to bomb the aircraft but there's a damn reasonable chance that I could set fire to it and without intending to!
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No chance of that happening, as you'll quickly be smothered by all those sodden baby wipe yielding parents!
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Ah yes, but they're only allowed one packet of baby wipes and I'd be allowed my hand baggage of 45 x 35 x 16 cm to be full of 'explosive' Swan Vesta's but only providing that they are dry. You see soggy matches are more dangerous than dry matches
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I had to chortle at your post. Yes (we) security do have a sense of humour.

I would have allowed all the wipes through. As a parent, I know the dribbles and sniffles of a child or 3! I tend to view my job with a common sense approach, in the respect of parents, I know what I need for a flight and how much and why.

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ps. I coo over babies! only because hubby says I am not allowed anymore!
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Originally Posted by Polehill.flt70
avgas321

I had to chortle at your post. Yes (we) security do have a sense of humour.

I would have allowed all the wipes through. As a parent, I know the dribbles and sniffles of a child or 3! I tend to view my job with a common sense approach, in the respect of parents, I know what I need for a flight and how much and why.

PH

ps. I coo over babies! only because hubby says I am not allowed anymore!
Polehill, a degree of sanity at last. Please be around LHR at 8am next Thursday T1,

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