easyJet scrap weight limit on hand luggage
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easyJet scrap weight limit on hand luggage
According to a report in the Sunday Times today, easyJet has removed all weight restrictions for carry-on luggage.
It has also increased the bag size restrictions to 55cm x 40cm x 20cm, to match BA Club World (previous restriction 45cm x 35cm x 20cm).
With no weight limits is safety being compromised?
It has also increased the bag size restrictions to 55cm x 40cm x 20cm, to match BA Club World (previous restriction 45cm x 35cm x 20cm).
With no weight limits is safety being compromised?
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Just beacause it is easyJet, there is no need to accuse it of safety bein comprimised. Several eurpoean airlines ( if not all) have no weight limit restrictions on handbaggage. However, they do have a size restriction. The bags will still be screened in the normal way, and if they do not fit in the overhead bin guages at check-in, they will not be classed as handbaggage. The passenger is also informed if they can not lift it into the overhead bins themselves, the bag will be removed to the hold.
By removing the wieght limit, there will be less problems on boarding as pax will not be trying to find places for 5 or 6 bags!!!
Think it is their best idea yet!
By removing the wieght limit, there will be less problems on boarding as pax will not be trying to find places for 5 or 6 bags!!!
Think it is their best idea yet!
Weight limits are OK if they are sensible in the first place (which leaves that cr@p outfit RYR out). V Bird, for instance, allows 1 or 2 pieces of hand baggage with a total combined weight of 10 Kg and 1 or two pieces of checked baggage with a total combined weight of 20 Kg. I consider that a fair limit.
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I still think there needs to be a maximum weight for total handluggage brought aboard an aircraft.
Essentially, any piece of handluggage has the potential to become a missile during an accident, especially if the overhead lockers either spill out their contents or collapse. Combined with laws of physics, when speed, gravity and weight combine, the consequences can be almost lethal should something as innocent as a 10kg bag fall out onto someone's head, if not a child's!
Furthermore, overhead lockers on all aircraft (that I have worked on at least) have a maximum weight limit for each locker/bin section. What would be the consequences - from an engineering standpoint at least - of these lockers being constantly exposed to excessive weight?
Whilst I'm all for being flexible with hand luggage requirements, etc, I do believe there needs to be some measure of common sense applied.
A carrier I used to work for performed check in for a smaller, pacific airline. One day, a friend of mine was checking in a lady and, as per procedure, asked her to load her trolley bag onto the scales to see if they met requirements.
The bag weighed in at 40kg - and it wasn't big either (looks can be deceiving).
When she opened it, she discovered the lady was carrying several engine components to give to her brother in arrival to fix!
Food for thought!
Essentially, any piece of handluggage has the potential to become a missile during an accident, especially if the overhead lockers either spill out their contents or collapse. Combined with laws of physics, when speed, gravity and weight combine, the consequences can be almost lethal should something as innocent as a 10kg bag fall out onto someone's head, if not a child's!
Furthermore, overhead lockers on all aircraft (that I have worked on at least) have a maximum weight limit for each locker/bin section. What would be the consequences - from an engineering standpoint at least - of these lockers being constantly exposed to excessive weight?
Whilst I'm all for being flexible with hand luggage requirements, etc, I do believe there needs to be some measure of common sense applied.
A carrier I used to work for performed check in for a smaller, pacific airline. One day, a friend of mine was checking in a lady and, as per procedure, asked her to load her trolley bag onto the scales to see if they met requirements.
The bag weighed in at 40kg - and it wasn't big either (looks can be deceiving).
When she opened it, she discovered the lady was carrying several engine components to give to her brother in arrival to fix!
Food for thought!
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There is a stunt waiting to happen here, just to prove how ridculous this is.
Take one power lifter and a video camera on to an easyjet flight along with. One strong bag, filled with fine lead shot.
Assuming a volume of lead in the bag (packing density of lead spheres/ usable volume of bag etc.) of 50cm x 35cm x 15cm accoring to
http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/...20/density.htm
This bag would weigh approx 297kg
Assuming our power lifter can carry it and lift it into the overhead do you think anyone from easy jet managment would be happy to sit beneath it? I would not...
What would this do to weight and balance?
Take one power lifter and a video camera on to an easyjet flight along with. One strong bag, filled with fine lead shot.
Assuming a volume of lead in the bag (packing density of lead spheres/ usable volume of bag etc.) of 50cm x 35cm x 15cm accoring to
http://www.allmeasures.com/Formulae/...20/density.htm
This bag would weigh approx 297kg
Assuming our power lifter can carry it and lift it into the overhead do you think anyone from easy jet managment would be happy to sit beneath it? I would not...
What would this do to weight and balance?
"One day, a friend of mine was checking in a lady and, as per procedure, asked her to load her trolley bag onto the scales to see if they met requirements.
The bag weighed in at 40kg - and it wasn't big either (looks can be deceiving)."
It would be difficult to even lift that and put it in the o/h locker.
The bag weighed in at 40kg - and it wasn't big either (looks can be deceiving)."
It would be difficult to even lift that and put it in the o/h locker.
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The reason behind the policy change is an attempt to reduce hold baggage to a minimum and help keep the turn around times down but it is bound to cost them a few quid in excess baggage charges.
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All the CAA have to say is actual weight for pax and bags. Standard weights tend to under-estimate in western europe. May as well take out some seats as you won't be able to take the payload with normal seat density. More legroom for all and removes the complaints of being treated to conditions not allowed for the transport of livestock.
The beancounters will not like the idea though.
The beancounters will not like the idea though.
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I doubt it's got owt to do with processing hold baggage, few less pieces aint gonna make a big time saving. It's a definate attempt to attract the business type with his overnight bag and lap top. These people dislike standing in line to collect their bags and will do their level best to get hand luggage only on board. Let them know that they will not be hassled over reasonable hand luggage and they may opt to book on your flights!
Joe public generally have no need to load up their hand luggage and those that abuse will have it tagged and stuck in the hold anyway.
Joe public generally have no need to load up their hand luggage and those that abuse will have it tagged and stuck in the hold anyway.
Jonathang ,
RYR's sudden decision to increase their cabin baggage allowance to 10kg most probably came as a result of pressure brought upon them by the vastly superior allowances on other LCCs. However, their checked baggage remains at a very unrealistic 15 kgs. It might be in their interest to reconsider that too.
RYR's sudden decision to increase their cabin baggage allowance to 10kg most probably came as a result of pressure brought upon them by the vastly superior allowances on other LCCs. However, their checked baggage remains at a very unrealistic 15 kgs. It might be in their interest to reconsider that too.
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Passenger Weights
I cant wait to see what eJ reaction will be when CAA get wind of all this, and add 5-10kg to pax standard weights.....
Male = 93kgs
Female = 75kgs
Children = 35kgs
Infants = Nil
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RYR's sudden decision to increase their cabin baggage allowance to 10kg most probably came as a result of pressure brought upon them by the vastly superior allowances on other LCCs. However, their checked baggage remains at a very unrealistic 15 kgs. It might be in their interest to reconsider that too.
5kg - 7kg is fairly standard for hand luggage.
15kg-20kg is not a realistic figure I agree however it's what you are paying for when you buy your ticket.
The assumed weights for baggage pieces for mass and balance purposes are between 11kg-13kg. Just because you as a passenger would like to take 30kg's in the hold. This does not mean the aircraft or the airline is capable of taking this.
Hence the restriction and the extra cost if you do choose to take extra. There has to be something to discourage extra weight on aircraft.
Imagine 189 passenger take 30kg in the hold of a Ryanair flight
Actual Weight: 189 * 30 = 5670 kg
Assumed Weight: 189 * 13 = 2547 kg
If the aircraft departs at Maximum Take-off Weight (MTOW).
Aircraft is actually going to land 3123kg over-weight
For that extra weight to stay legal you have to trade other payload (revenue), extra passengers (revenue), ferry fuel (revenue).
Who pays for that? The passenger taking that weight, all fair in my opinion.
