CASA crackdown
 

I am going to the Alice Sprigs surfboat championships shortly and am perplexed by the CASA threats to my liberties in flying there from redneck country, NSW.

I received today a further message from our regulator subsequent to a threat on the 12th November 2002, about how they are going to ramp and persecute all and sundry around Ceduna and Leigh Creek on the day of the solar eclipse. Goodness gracious me !

The message, which I did not open said, "aviation safety arrangements for the viewing of next weeks solar eclipse in outback South Australia are being upgraded ! ? ! ???????

The original email, which is now quiet honestly being intrusive and "glunking" up my hard drive, mentioned things like;

"the CASA will carry out special safety checks as well as monitoring operations in the area"

"Two CASA inspectors will be based in Ceduna, checking pilot activities and inspecting some aircraft"

As my trip to YBAS will also include a reunion of nudist dentist assistants and old Readers Digest readers academics, I am seriously contemplating staying at home in bed for the duration of the 4th December extravaganza.

If the "event" is being upgraded by CASA one can only imagine that they will double the bureacratic involvement and, "curse the drought, our overtime comes first", One shudders at the quota levied on these individuals for a success strike.

If anyone gets ramped, please email me; these threats taken in their true and contemptuous meaning and being carried through, smack of a serious breach of civil liberties.

Before you carry on,,, Did you know that CASA applied for an exemption of the sex and disability discrimination (5 years), (something about pregnant females or limbless and decapitated pilot applicants), but who cares ?

The thgought just struck me, If CASA are upgrading the event, this thread may go from a debate to a mass debate.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Perplexed
 

If you have nothing to hide, why then do you want to hide :confused: :confused: :confused:

Oh and a question for all and sundry "What are Civil Liberties"

Civil liberties are what CASA are trying to circumvent with their application for exemption from the sex and equal opportunities and,,, I have nothing to hide, but object to some jumped up bureacrat acting like "Colonel Klink", and demanding my participation in his excuse to justify his job. ( Is he still around?), perhaps you are he, Do you have nothing to hide??

I bet I could find something to prosecute you on if (heaven forbid), I was a CASA ramp expert.

Like I said, if you go, see, and get ramped, email me. I would like to see what they get you on and how long it takes.

And yes, I have been privy to their petty antics and it was disturbing, counter productive, time wasting, and intrusive, not to mention, "rude".

Have a good day mate. (nasa) Rings a bell.

If you do get ramped, just say nothing, lock up your aircraft and walk away from it. What are they going to do to you then?.........after they prove beyond all resonable doubt that it was actually you in the aircraft to start with. they can't physically restrain you and if you say nothing it puts the onus on them straight up............biggest thing is say nothing.

Have a photo copy of CAR 302 (?).

It states what items are to be produced for inspection.

They are (for domestic flight):

MR
Licence and med
Flight Manual
Pax/Freight manifests

And that's it! No you do not have to produce maps. No you do not have to produce weather. etc.

CS

Colonel Klink
 

Axiom. The vexatious, aggressive, uncouth, abusive Col. Klink!

I was, with monotonous regularity, the subject of his abuse and attempts at deprivation of all rights and liberties.

He was one of the old school - probably reform school - good guy for a beer or three on a hot day but he has now sadly retired to raise Llamas in Tibet - or some such thing!

I had a soft spot for the old ba$tard and CASA in his part of Australia is worse for his passing.

Before you get too worked-up about civil liberties being invaded....... ;)

At least they have taken the time to say out loud what their intentions are in as much as being there. If they are gonna drag airworthiness inspectors out with them to the show, then some fun and games might ensue therein.

Stallie is spot-on, licence, medical, MR and flight manual are the main required items. They might ask to see your CURRENT charts, and your logbook within seven days too. Unfortunately they have a job to do, whilst at the same time you have yours. If you don't know your rights, then learn them. They are not legally allowed to interfere with private property, ie "Can I have a look inside"? , answer, "Yep, through the window".

They have no business to withold the egress or the movement of your passengers to, from or within the aircraft. If your passengers are being delayed unduely, then ask the FOI if he would mind continuing this check at a later time during the day, and stick to that arrangement. If he says "No, this will only take a couple of minutes", suggest to him/her that the interference of a commercial operation is not within his scope of investigation, and you'd be more than happy to subject yourself to his ramp check at a later time when the pax are somewhere away from here.

Do not offer anything that you haven't been asked a direct question about, and refrain from smartar$e comments and the like. If you believe that you are being asked leading questions about your organisation or company, refuse to answer them without legal representation. Remember, he doesn't have to substantiate where he gets his info from, but you have to defend your position if it comes to a court of law.

Unfortunately, we have to endure these "little pleasures of life" from time to time. Just seek direction from your CP as to how the company wants you to handle it if you are ramped.

Have a great flight, and be safe.

What about private ops??

Are the requirements the same?

I thought that you had to have current maps etc!

Do I require a passenger manifest?

NAP

Yes mate; pass me a beer would you ! Forget the pot, I'm silly enough now.;)

Poor NAPpy,

You just can't win, can you?

;) :D ;) :)

Ahhhh Yes Col Klink
 

You're right Torres......Nice guy to have a beer with :D :D

Got sprung by him in Tvl many years ago delivering an Islander to Cairns. Thing of it was, we didn't have a rego on the Aircraft.....Had a letter from one of the Col's compartriots in AF saying it was OK.....Should have seen the look on his face....I don't think the blades had finished spinning before he turned up along side the aircraft.....Produced the said document and he still wouldn't accept that we was kewl :D :D

Civil Liberties.....What are they ?????

Done a lot of things in my time axiom, but ringing bells is not one of them :p :p If my profile don;t tell you who I am, then e-mail me or ask Torres, both of us would be more than happy to tell you :cool: :cool:

/me slaps Pseudonymn with a large trout!!

NAP:D:D

NAPpy, talk to yer on TAF ;)

No worries ute man;)

nasa. Knowing some of the Islanders of your acquaintence I'm surprised it was only lack of rego the Colonel got you for! :D :D

Yeah, Col Klink was a good guy. You could have a blazing row with him, get threatened with a double life sentence, then meet up with him in the pub after work for a beer. When coming to visit me - which was all too frequent - he used to throw his hat through the office door first!

If the Colonel gotcha, it was fair and square. None of the games some CASA staff play these days.

A Couple of items to remember: If you are asked a question, answer that question, and that question only. Don't be tempted by silence to keep talking - that is where CASA gets most of the info.
Absolutely correct, a CASA FOI (or whatever) does NOT have the right to impede the conduct of a commercial operation.
You are quite within your rights to request (insist) that the ramp check be completed after the passengers have been escorted fro the aircraft.
Read up on refuelling procedures, distances from refuelling points, distances between aircraft etc...
A good rejoinder is, if you percieve that the FOI is being rude to you, ask them "Excuse me, but am I being rude to you?" The answer should be no. Then ask them " Can I ask you why are you being rude to me?".;)

CASA crackdown, what a joke!

I don't think they have the resources but I guess if 'they' are a bit bored with dreaming up new rules, a good old jolley out to the real world is a nice break.

Incidentally, the existing paper licence (supposedly ICAO standard) is a disgrace.
It is next to useless when it comes to security ID without a photo.
I actually refuse to carry mine as it is another piece of paper to get in the way and more importantly, I believe it is invalid because it states I'm a British citizen.

I'm actually an Australian.

Only a minor detail I suppose!!

I said on the airport security post that my licence says I am British, yet Australian born.

I am told by my "brudders" that I am European, (I think we were fighting the Europeans when first settlement took place in Aust),

As a farmer I am a landholder, but I paid money for freehold land and my bank reckons I am the owner when it comes to not making payments.

I have a water licence which gives me about 75% less than my allocation because some green ideologist thinks the water is better being flushed down the Snowy River in to the ocean and our Deputy Prime Minister, (AKA the Minister for things flying and Regional Australia), was locked out of a critical debate with State Premiers and JH.

BUT we got tighter gun control laws.

I suppopse that now we have no starving stock to feed we don't have to shoot them and, the "winging" farmers don't need guns..... So we'll give the farm aid to a gun buyback of pistols.

Great, I can just see all the criminals lining up to hand in their automatics for the rich rewards offered by the Gov't.

Am I the only person out of synch with this world????

Bring back the gladiators, it keeps the pissants busy and they will forget about being shafted by all and sundry. (sorry footy.),

Finally, airport security is a hugh joke, but then again, who cares??

So CASA is out to get all!!!!!!!!!

How many at the eclipse sighting got ramped and lost their licence because of the ramp check? and Why?

How many even got ramped?

Next there will be reds under my bed!!!!!!!!

:) :) :)

They missed me, mate, because I didn't go;

Why 2 warnings if they didn't mean business and,

We'll never know unless someone tells us and I guess this is "commercial and in confidence" to anyone seeking an FOI.

As far as "reds under the bed" go, I saw blokes like you when I marched past the Sydney Town Hall in uniform.

We are overgoverned, overtaxed, over regulated, and it makes me cringe when I see and hear people defending the bureacrats who are defending the undefensible.

This lot cost me inxs 100K and still refuse to admit liability or fault in a situation that could and has the corollory to jeopardise human life.

Forget the gun debate if you like, what's the difference?

people's lives are still at stake because nobody will change things because of a perceived threat to their bloody jobs.

1) Read the Phealan papers,

2) If you think this is crap, join the "Cathay Club".