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Vee Won Kutt 27th July 2006 02:58

A professional pilot is...........
 
Let's see where this one goes!
Feel free to add to this thread by simply starting each reply with:

'A professional pilot is......'

I will get the ball rolling.

A professional pilot is always punctual.

Gnadenburg 27th July 2006 03:07

"...... required to wear a hat".

Eliminates the aviation bums at VB. :}

Capt Claret 27th July 2006 03:17

A professional pilot is able to disagree with some one on PPRuNe without using words like:
  • loser,
  • fcukwit,
  • idiot,
  • w@nker,
  • fool,
  • mooron,
  • scab.

to name a few.

tinpis 27th July 2006 03:20

One wonders whether it ever was a "profession"

An occupation, such as law, medicine, or engineering, that requires considerable training and specialized study.

Seems more likey it is closer than ever these days to the oldest one in existance.

Vee Won Kutt 27th July 2006 03:23

A professional pilot is someone who plays by the rules tinpis

Howard Hughes 27th July 2006 07:41

'A professional pilot is......'
 
An attitude or mindset, and has no correlation with how much you get paid...

OzExpat 27th July 2006 07:52

A professional pilot accepts a rebuke, tin!:p

Aussie 27th July 2006 07:58

Required to wear a uniform :)

Aussie

Led Zep 27th July 2006 08:41


Originally Posted by Aussie
Required to wear a uniform :)

Aussie

I hate to send this thread OT, but is there still a pilot of a certain reptile air out of KNX getting around in "uniform" wearing skate shoes? :hmm:

Back on topic:
A professional pilot does not take off over weight (the aircraft, that is :E).

aircraft 27th July 2006 12:50

Does not wear baseball caps!
 
A professional pilot knows the relationship between profit and safety and strives to get the balance right.

And, he does not wear a baseball cap on the flight deck! About a year ago, whilst standing on the apron at Esperance, I saw a Skywest F50 First Officer don a baseball cap after taking his seat. To his credit, he did not wear it backwards. I very nearly wrote a little letter to the airline about that.

puff 27th July 2006 14:33


Originally Posted by aircraft
A professional pilot knows the relationship between profit and safety and strives to get the balance right.
And, he does not wear a baseball cap on the flight deck! About a year ago, whilst standing on the apron at Esperance, I saw a Skywest F50 First Officer don a baseball cap after taking his seat. To his credit, he did not wear it backwards. I very nearly wrote a little letter to the airline about that.

So you expect the guy to wear his 'police' hat while flying for sun protection? Be an interesting complaint to DJ, considering flight crew are 'issused' with baseball caps!

Over and gout 27th July 2006 17:19

unemployed & broke :ok:

Nipper 27th July 2006 19:03

Everything that Howard Hughes said except I'll add "regardless of licence type".

Runaway Gun 27th July 2006 19:06

A professional pilot is....
 
.....skilled at barwork, taxi driving, labouring, pumping gas, or used to working hard in order to gain money for qualifications.

Unfortunately, I've done most of the above, and more, but it also includes filling out dole forms. Still the paperwork experience was invaluable. :hmm:

Howard Hughes 27th July 2006 19:44


Originally Posted by Nipper
Everything that Howard Hughes said except I'll add "regardless of licence type".

Good point Nipper, I agree.:ok:

To digress a little, I saw a QF pilot wearing a baseball cap just yesterday, I think it is quite an acceptable method for keeping the sun from your eyes on westbound flights, probably not a good look sitting and waiting for pushback though, or whilst walking through the terminal...:hmm:

aircraft 28th July 2006 00:03

I cannot see how baseball caps could offer any significant sun protection. If airline aircraft were like fighter jets with glass canopies then I could believe the cap would give some protection to the face, but that limited protection would be dependent on the head/sun geometry being just right.

milkbottle 28th July 2006 01:22

A professional pilot is.......
 
a mullet clad, aviator wearing, glorified bus driver with enough crunchie bars to open a 4 square.

ps. no knowledge of grammer or spelling required

ITCZ 28th July 2006 01:33


Originally Posted by aircraft
I cannot see how baseball caps could offer any significant sun protection.

It doesn't take long to figure out which of those commenting on 'professional pilots' are pilots themselves.

Our friend here has probably never had to squint into the setting sun in search of the PAPI whilst on final for RW28 at Broome.

Thankfully his/her error enables us to disregard any opinion he/she may proffer on 'professional pilots.'

M.25 28th July 2006 01:48

A professional pilot is......
 
Someone who doesn't let the 101 distractions take his mind off the real task at hand.

Oh yeah....

and someone who wears a hat to avoid losing his medical to skin cancer by the age of 40. (Since it's a bit hard to fit a headset over the top of your akubra, a neat baseball style cap is fine):E

Wanderin_dave 28th July 2006 02:14

A professional pilot is; standing in the rain keeping dry under the umbrella your twirling while your engineer stands 2m away getting drenched working on your stricken aircraft. :}

Had to add this as it's the scene currently being played out on the apron here. Airline and location will remain anon.

P.S. I'm all for the baseball cap, should have an aviation theme or your company name on the front though.

Spinnerhead 28th July 2006 02:26

Always gets drunk on overnights.

aircraft 28th July 2006 02:30


Our friend here has probably never had to squint into the setting sun in search of the PAPI whilst on final for RW28 at Broome.
What has this got to do with protection from the sun? The circumstances of this situation are highly specific - I concede a baseball cap or any headwear with a suitable peak could be useful in this (highly specific) situation.

When it comes to protection from the sun, bear in mind that when the sun is low (near the horizon) it has only a tiny fraction of the destructive power it has when higher up.

Capt Claret 28th July 2006 05:47

aircraft
If your profile is to believed, you're arguing from a position of enthusiastic ignorance.

Whilst I hate baseball caps on a personal level, having squinted into the rising,setting and other suns, along with ITCZ, for many many years, I can understand why some pilots choose to use them. The sun streaming through the eyebrow window onto my balding pate, I'm sure does me no good.

Further, have you considered that whilst a baseball cap doesn't protect the ears, as say an Akubra would, it does protect the eyes and bulk of the head?

psycho joe 28th July 2006 07:15


I cannot see how baseball caps could offer any significant sun protection. If airline aircraft were like fighter jets with glass canopies then I could believe the cap would give some protection to the face, but that limited protection would be dependent on the head/sun geometry being just right.
Actually the harmful UV rays that cause skin cancer and sunburn cannot pass through glass. So the glass cockpit windows in airliners (or glass canopies) naturally protects our skin from the sun. Personally I wear a baseball cap to cut down glare, and because the full fighter helmet is a bit heavy. I can do this because like most airlines in this part of the world, the airline that I work for issued it.

Mr Proachpoint 28th July 2006 09:05

A professional pilot is too lazy to work and too honest to steal.

MAPt

captain high 28th July 2006 09:13

A professional pilot is..... NOT someone who would dob in another pilot for wearing a baseball cap! :confused: :yuk:

White_line_fever 28th July 2006 09:55

A professional pilot always shows professional courtesy and airmanship to other pilots even if from companies that dont quite see eye to eye.


Does airmanship even exist anymore????? hard to find if it does.:hmm:

Zap Brannigan 28th July 2006 10:02

A professional pilot is the one looking up at the sky- be it at a funeral / BBQ / footy / beach / wedding / while driving.....

How many of us have almost had a road prang while watching an aircraft overhead!

Lord Snot 28th July 2006 13:54

A professional pilot is...........
 
...getting cheaper and cheaper these days.




How many of us have almost had a road prang while watching an aircraft overhead
=professional!! :p

Speaking of ball-caps, on the "faggot-maggot" fleet there are a number of drivers who do tend to wear their caps backwards. Apparently it's so that the brim doesn't get in the way..... :yuk: :yuk:

jetbrett 28th July 2006 14:30

A professional pilot is......
 
a person who people think will be rich and have a hot misses, those two things do not fall into the same category when you fly aeroplanes.

ballsdeep 29th July 2006 01:10


Originally Posted by Capt Claret
A professional pilot is able to disagree with some one on PPRuNe without using words like:
  • scab.

to name a few.


I know plenty of pilots that frequently use the word "scab" and by far they are the most professional, LOYAL, unselfish, dedicated pilots that you can meet. They sacrificed a lot for the good of the company/s only to have it shat back in their face by these "scabs". And you think it is unprofessional if you call someone a scab? In my opnion, scab is letting the :mad:`s off lightly.

tinpis 29th July 2006 01:29

:rolleyes: And the countdown begins...one.....two.....:(

Hugh Jarse 29th July 2006 01:36


Actually the harmful UV rays that cause skin cancer and sunburn cannot pass through glass. So the glass cockpit windows in airliners (or glass canopies) naturally protects our skin from the sun. Personally I wear a baseball cap to cut down glare, and because the full fighter helmet is a bit heavy. I can do this because like most airlines in this part of the world, the airline that I work for issued it.

Sorry Psychojoe, that's another myth. Pilots have the highest rate of skin cancers on face and hands of any professional group. This comes from my Dermatologist who is quite senior in his professional group. From personal experience, if I don't wear sunscreen I will burn on any exposed skin whilst in the aircraft.:confused:

Capt Claret 29th July 2006 02:20

Well ballsdeep, I guess if one has got to resort to calling others names, it just proves there's little or no substance to one's argument. :zzz:

pakeha-boy 29th July 2006 02:53

here we go.........

A BROFESSIONAL pilot is one who stays out of trouble,by using his/her BROFESSIONAL judgement to avoid situations which might require the use of his/her BROFESSIONAL skills................(rangi mate,grab me another tinnie please,will ya)


notice I used the his/her thing...now thats BROfessional...kapai!!!

ballsdeep 29th July 2006 07:54


Originally Posted by Capt Claret
Well ballsdeep, I guess if one has got to resort to calling others names, it just proves there's little or no substance to one's argument. :zzz:

Not necessarily, these people have been labelled “scabs” because they have ruined the lives, wellbeing, marriages and families of their fellow pilot. And your telling me there is no substance to that argument?????? You obviously haven’t been affected by these peoples betrayal.

Woomera 29th July 2006 08:25

Dinnnnnng!
 
Thanks for playing


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