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Laikim Liklik Susu 26th April 2005 08:28

Geez guys, keep 'em coming! Loving this thread even more than "Low Act".

I scoured through the TAA DC-3 AOM, and damned if I can find the feathering drill! I'll keep looking. I do have the cabin layout diagrammes for TAK, SBA, SBI, SBW, SBO, SBB, SBD, SBG, and SBL.

I'll keep checking!

Animalclub 26th April 2005 12:28

There used to be a DC3 with rectangular windows, I think we called it the Tourliner... we used to use it for the Travaire Tours. I always thought it was VH-AEQ but I was recently informed that this wasn't so. What registration was it?

tiger_maynard 26th April 2005 19:33

Animalclub,

The big window DC3 was VH-TAK. It's other peculiarity was that the empty aircraft had a well aft C of G, and was in my opinion, the only DC3 in which a 3 point landing was easily achievable. The most I could get out of the others, if empty, was a "Tail Down Wheeler".

VH-AEQ served TAA in it's Queensland services. It may have had a New Guinea history that I'm unaware of, if so was probably re-registered to the SB* series.

Happy flying,

Ken

tinpis 26th April 2005 19:43

What year was it TAA and AN ceased DC3 ops in the Mainalnd?

tiger_maynard 26th April 2005 21:00

For TAA it was 1968 (or thereabouts). Of course, VH-AES which became VH-SBA which became VH-AES again, later flew again for TAA/Australian Airlines, but as the "museum" aircraft.

Ken

Fris B. Fairing 26th April 2005 22:59

Guys

If you want to know about extant DC-3s in Australia and NZ check out my website:

www.dc3.adastron.com

The enlarged windows were usually known as the "Viewmaster" mod. TAA conversions were VH-AEQ and VH-TAK. AEQ still clings to life but TAK gave up her life for that dreadful movie "Sky Pirates", although her battered nose survives. The most notable Viewmaster survivor is VH-ANR, Australia's oldest DC-3 which is on display at the Queensland Air Museum, Caloundra.

www.vh-anr.adastron.com

Cheers

Laikim Liklik Susu 27th April 2005 00:17

Trying a new image hosting site. Here is a page out of the TAA DC-3 engineering manual - not the best, but you get the idea...

Propeller feathering:




http://photos7.flickr.com/11114465_d6faedb86d_o.jpg

tinpis 27th April 2005 01:18

small bosoms.... try http://www.photobucket.com/

Seem to be ok for free.

Did Qantas still have a DC3 in the early seventies????? for training?

Laikim Liklik Susu 27th April 2005 01:47

I see the photo fine - maybe reload the page Tinpis?

The Qaintarse DC-3 Ops Manual (that TAA also used) I have is dated September 21, 1964.

I spose they want that back too! :} THEY AIN'T GETTIN' 'EM!

Fris B. Fairing 27th April 2005 06:20

tinpis

Qantas had two DC-3s in the early seventies, VH-EDC and VH-EDD.

Both were sold to Queensland Pacific Airways which was taken over (with the a/c) by Bushies. EDD ended her days on the Cairns fire dump and EDC was bound for Botany Bay.

Cheers

Laikim Liklik Susu 27th April 2005 06:26

What was the DC-3 that sat at kingaroy till fairly recently until some mob (probably DC-3 Australia) salvaged it and flew it out?

I seem to recall VH-AGU or something???

Both EDC and EDD are the only two DC-3\'s mentioned in the 1964 Qantas manual BTW. And both QUITE different aeroplanes!

Fris B. Fairing 27th April 2005 23:57

LLS

It was VH-AGU at Kingaroy. Now with Jeff Trappett.

Cheers

sixtiesrelic 28th April 2005 08:48

flyin' 3's in New Guinea
 
Cor a DC3 engineering manual... never saw one!
In Patair, we read the ops manual for a week, learned to draw the systems diagrams by heart and fronted up at DCA in Moresby to sit an exam. we'd usually fail the load sheet as we'd never seen the type they provided or that cabin layout. We'd practise a few more loadsheets and front up for the re-exam of that bit and pass.
Next; the word would go out that new F/Os were getting an endorsement and all the aeroclub members would cart chairs outside near the threshold and witness the aerobatic display over a couple of afternoons as we thought we were doing circuits.
After we were endorsed, off we went as first officers.... no training at all. Ah thems were the days

tinpis 1st May 2005 23:07


and all the aeroclub members would cart chairs outside near the threshold and witness the aerobatic display over a couple of afternoons as we thought we were doing circuits.

Seeing as most of the pilots under training were Dero instructors :}

sixtiesrelic 16th May 2005 09:25

prop feathering Ansett MAL style
 
ANSETT - M.A.L. SECTION 5
EMERGENCY PROCEDURES
DC-3 OPERATING MANUAL PAGE 3

5.1.5 ENGINE FAILURE IN FLIGHT:

P “A” CONTROL
H IDENTIFICATION . . . . . . . . . . PORT OR STARBOARD
A
S THROTTLE . . . . . . . . . . . . CLOSED
E FEATHER . . . . . . . . . . . . . CHECKED (ACTION)
MIXTURE . . . . . . . . . . . . . IDLE CUT OUT
U/CARRIAGE . . . . . . . . . . . . UP/ AS REQUIRED
1 HYDRAULICS . . . . . . . . . . . . TO REAR (“BOTH”)

P (IN THE EVENT OF FIRE)
H
A X/FEED OFF . . . . . . . . . . . . CHECK
S PROP FEATHERED . . . . . . . . . CHECKED (BUTTON OUT)
E SHUT OFF . . . . . . . . . . . . . OFF
EXTINGUISHER . . . . . . . . . . SELECTED, FIRE 1 FIRE 2.
2
P POWER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RATED/ AS REQ’D (Refer to
H Section 7 for max. range S/E)
A
S FUEL SELECTOR . . . . . . . . . OFF
E IGNITION . . . . . . . . . . . . . OFF
GENERATOR . . . . . . . . . . . OFF
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