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hoss 11th Mar 2003 23:31

So where did it happen to you?
 
Interestingly,just read another topic and noted that most of us have been called a 'white cu*t' at some point through our Charter Pilot days. exmexican had his first experience in Leonora, I had mine in Darwin enroute to Derby.

This question is for all the Charter Pilots past and present who have operated in the Outback and Northern parts of Dunnunda.

Where did you first get called a 'white c*nt' and any other experiences with racism?

Safe flying, hoss

liquid_gold 12th Mar 2003 02:27

Must have been around 'The Alice' at some stage. Think the correct wording was "puckin' white cu*t", just after I said I didn't have a spare smoke.

'Hey Whitey, got a dollar/smoke' seemed to be more popular at the time. Makes me wonder what they would've said if I called them 'Blackie' ? I'm sure they would have screamed discrimination.

Boomerang 12th Mar 2003 03:51

Daydreaming outside the chemist in Derby. Become aware I am staring into space in the general direction of a mob. One comes toward me cussing ALL sorts of niceties and threatening me. I just told him what I was doing, waiting for the woman etc, I don't know what happened next but he actually apologized, called me boss and asked if I could forgive him?!?!:eek:

In hindsight, I should have asked him for a smoke, God knows I could have used one :D

clear to land 12th Mar 2003 03:59

Ahhhh, the first time. Would have been at primary school in NQ. At work in GA, probably Darwin, coulda been Alice. Of course only us white c**ts are racist, just ask the do gooders and pollies!

the wizard of auz 12th Mar 2003 07:40

Happened at grade one in school, after that, about twice a day on average in every town in the west quite a few in NSW four times in QLD, recent visit to the terra tory managed about two a day for three weeks............... and not once in tassy ;) I hate being a racist, it gets me all worn out minding my own business and somehow mentally provoking all these white c...t attacks.
I have given up on trying to explain to all these city folk and overseas folk about how it really is out here, all that happens is I get called a racist and end up trying to defend myself against all these do gooders that just dont know........ so I just admit it now, Yup I am a racist.

If ya want a laugh, watch two black fullas fighting, and count how many times they call each other black C...t. Then just to prove a point, do the same with a pair of white blokes. It will astound you!!!!!!, Fair dinkum.

redsnail 12th Mar 2003 10:33

Kununurra, Feb '94. :)

nungry 12th Mar 2003 19:05

Everyday by Gillie (he did a very good impression actually!!);)

Hugh Jarse 12th Mar 2003 20:31

Year 7
 
Ironically, by a PNG national (in my class) whose father was a member of the PNG Diplomatic Corps.

nicholas_hosties 12th Mar 2003 23:54

Sad, pathetic thread this one!

High Altitude 13th Mar 2003 02:33

Hey Brudda...
 
Puck u u white c*nt, u gotta smok bloke, eh brudda u pucken racist white c*nt u gotem dat 2dolla...

The crem da la crem of primitiveness was the other day an aboriginal gentleman decided to relieve himself in a lifejacket bag... Bloody animal...

Eh pilot u takem me to port keat... I pay u when we get dere brudda tru i gottem my check dere and den i'll givem u another pipty dollar but i wanna gettem dat check...

That said and done no i am not a racist white c*nt...

Transition Layer 13th Mar 2003 02:54

Would have been within a week of starting work in Halls Creek WA. The funny thing was that he then went onto say to us (me and two other blokes in the company) that we "Are only up here for the money. U white c*nts are just taking money from us blackfellas".

For the money? I think not mate!!!!

Ditto what Wiz says - i still laugh when they call each other black c*nts, and the other favourite "You're not my puckin wife!"

Bless em...

:D

Capt Claret 13th Mar 2003 03:54

Never
 
Been in the Territory since Jan '94, with the exception of the period Sep '97-Jun '99.

Flown Airmed, CHTR, RPT.

404 Titan 13th Mar 2003 04:51

Coen FNQ 1994, Sexchange Hotel having dinner.

Local indigenous woman comes up to me and a mate of mine and says:
I lub yooou!
My mate and I reply we are taken and not available. :yuk:
She then shouts out at the top of her voice: You pucken white c**t.
We couldn’t stop laughing for the rest of the night.

Bagot_Community_Locator 13th Mar 2003 07:04

One of my experiences with racism is reading this post on pprune.

:mad:

Hatchet Harry 13th Mar 2003 07:06

Nothing beats this romantic exchange I heard a while back between a fella and his Missus:

Bloke:"Get up you C**T"

Missus: " I'm not your wife you Prick"

Bloke: " Get up you C**T"

Missus: "F**K you, You Black C**T"

Romantic isn't it !!!!!!!

Got called a White C**T many times but have had the pleasure of a delightful exchange with a bloke about why I was there:

"Ehhh you white C**T, you're only here for the money. You don't respect Black men, you don't respect mah cultcha"
:confused: :confused: :confused:

404 Titan 13th Mar 2003 09:16

Bagot_Community_Locator

So what you are saying is it is OK for indigenous inhabitants of this country to call us White C**ts but when we as White Australians discuss the names we have been called you are branding us as racist. For your information no one has made a racist remark toward indigenous Australians on this post. If you don’t like what is in this forum don’t read it. In fact crawl back in your hole from where you came.
:mad:

High Altitude 13th Mar 2003 22:17

404 Titan - WELL SAID.

BCL - Have a close read of the post and you will infact see that there is no racism there just reports of the truth.

Northern Chique 13th Mar 2003 23:12

The approach of many voices of "the minority less fortunate" has never failed to leave me agast.

First time..... Kununurra '98 ..... when I got in the way of one male person beating the hell outta his wife with the buckle end of his belt and laying into her with work boots .... never again.... I just call the police now, if she dies because I didnt render aquequate assistance, well that will have to be the problem of the police, the soft headed law courts and the legal system.

The general public bear the brunt of a self inflicted outcry of alcohol and substance abuse. Down south we used the americanism "trailer trash" or "gutter trash". Here its other names best not discussed in a public forum usually instigated by the so called victim.

During work hours, I find bribery in a fashion works well... usually in the following format..

"You want me to help, sure I will give you all the help you need, but you going to do two things for me.... do you understand.."

"Yes Sister, Im sorry"

"I dont want to be sorry, I didnt derserve that in the first place. You will be still, you will do what you are told, or you get out of my ambulance now, and I call the police"

"Yes Sister"

While all the above sounds very subserviant in a manner of speaking, unless my life is in danger, I would never throw any one out of my truck... and believe me if anyone has an excuse to have a racially tainted opinion, I would have to come close.

I deal with swearing, name calling, violent people every day who earn more per week than I could dream of, in some cases are less than hygenic in the loosest possible terms, rip the relos off blind, calling in medical intervention when that family member is about to die or already dead. The reason..... they are now going to miss out on the pension and carers cheque!

The kids growing up are no different... these are fourth, fifth sixth generation wefare dependants, already alchohol dependant, changing the name of "culture" as they see fit. For once a proud race, fiercely protective of family and kin, now think mass riots, payback (often leathal), child and spousal abuse is acceptable and has manipulated the current thinking to anyone objecting is a racist white *%#t. Tit for tat practice is the bane of my current existance.

For anyone who watches the ABC Australian Story.....there was a very interesting program some weeks ago on the FNQ people having to help them selves.... a realieving ideal if I ever saw one... maybe there is hope after all.

robair 14th Mar 2003 01:15

Wrong website
 
I think you have the wrong website for this type of thread. Try the KKK website:*
I think it is more oppropriate for this one:}

Aussierotor 14th Mar 2003 01:49

Its a funny old game this racism.
The dogooders and the ones complaining are shielded in their upper class leafy suburb in the city.
For those of us who live in the north ,well we have experience and see things.
I get on ok with them,give them a ride ,hand over a smoke when they want one,but theres quite a lot that spoil it for the others.Must admit was a bit peeved when one pinched my car and wrote it off.
Was refered to as a white "c" once when driving out of bottle shop in Broome with a guy half in car and half out trying to bot money off me.

The true old aboriginal seem to be ok,buts its the younger generation who know where there bread is buttered that are the stirers.
To me racism is a load of crap anyway----colour ,nationality etc.
Just wondering when they will stop us calling one another a two headed tasmaining ******,etc ,seppos ,bloody poms etc

The worlds a joke

Travelling Toolbox 14th Mar 2003 04:22

Interesting thread guys and gals. At the risk of blowing my identity.....

Had a brush with this theme in PNG years ago, but with a twist .....I was working a contract as a CAA surveyor and amongst my duties, was the responsibility for inspecting/approving all maintenance organisations.

In one of many meetings with the Secretary and other upper management types it was directed that, in order to promote and foster onshore organisations which would recruit and train national engineers, we were to restrict the number of offshore companies approved to carry out maintenance on PNG registered aircaft. Fine. No problem - after all it was their country.

Well, you have never seen so much heat and light generated by a certian FNQ based organisation, when I declined their application for a Cert of Approval. They even went to the extreme of buying a well known local identity (read recruited as PNG representative of company) in Moresby to lobby the Secretary personally.

To cut a long story short, I was accused of being a racist - for alledged comments I had made to an unrelated third party (read friend of FNQ company owner) in Australia. I was summoned by BS Castle where I had to front the Secretary and explain my actions (which happened to be her government's policy) to her.

This episode really p1ssed me off as it was a "whitey" slandering me and attempting to have me thrown out of the country so he could get his snout in the trough.

It would have been amusing, had it not been so serious an accusation to make to a PNG government representative against an expat employee of that governent.

The whole thing was dropped when several ex-apprentice (now LAME's) Nationals who had known me for the best part of ten years, submitted character reference letters to the Secretary in support of me. This they did not have to do, but they were incensed enough to come out in defence of a former mentor and I thank them for that.

The other ironic point I should make is that the Secretary had met my wife before these racist accusations were made. I only mention this because my wife happens to be Japanese. Sorry, she can't help it, but it sort of made a nonsense of the FNQ company's arguement. :O :O

So, yes I too have been tainted by these comments, but by a fellow whitey who saw me as an obstacle to his making a quick buck in The Land of the Unexpected :mad: :mad: :mad:

404 Titan 14th Mar 2003 08:26

robair

I wouldn’t be caught reading or participating in a KKK forum because they are a bunch of “White C**T, Trailer Trash in bread Ar*e H*les”. Maybe this sight would suit you better because you obviously have no idea of the definition of racist.
:mad:

compressor stall 14th Mar 2003 08:38

For the multi lingual amongst us, remember a swear word in a second language does not have the same meaning or impact as it does in one's own language.

Who remembers being taught swear words in say Greek in the schoolyard? For you to utter the words means nothing, whereas to a Greek person, it would be highly offensive.

Hugh Jarse 15th Mar 2003 04:08

Exactly. If you tell a Yank to get stuffed, he'll think about going to the local All-You-Can-Eat diner.....:}

THE CHAIRMAN 15th Mar 2003 13:08

Jarse,
He'll think about going BACK to the local 'all-u-can-eat' diner!

YBRM 15th Mar 2003 13:37

Take a seat at Henry's Cafe`(Chinatown-Broome) and your gaurenteed some racial abuse in refusal to give a smoke after being asked. Lost count how often this happens with local "tribe" members wandering around the streets, but hey, adds to the character of the place !

Long time no talk Hoss (since KD?) Hope to catch up on the phone soon ..........:p

nicholas_hosties 16th Mar 2003 06:38

Isn't it great when you live and fly in one of the remotest and truly beautiful places on the earth and all you can find to talk about is when you were first called a little name.
Blackfella swearing is considered no stronger than Pommie git or **** etc. You can find them all in the dictionary.
Some people get annoyed when a blackfella does'nt say thankyou but in there culture everything belongs to everyone so there is no need for the word.
I remember a few years ago on an airstrip in the Kimberly five pilots were taken to court for drinking and leaving their emptys on the threshold, I would like to of known what a rfds pilot would of called them at four in the morning if fod had occured, stupid c*** springs to mind. Never seen a blackfella do that.
So one, do not take it to heart, and two, remember some of you probably deserve it.

the wizard of auz 16th Mar 2003 07:32

Nicholas_hosties, if you havnt seen em do that well you just aint been around then. Had the lovlies break into both my aircraft just one week ago, they break the runway lights here on a weekly basis, steal fuel from aircraft here on a basis that is so regular that I cant fuel my aircraft at the end of the day, visit the airport on a regular basis just to see what they can steal or wreck and leave rubbish on the strip every time............. it aint just here either. I can refer you to several places and people with the same problems...... even to the extent that they had to get engineers up to the bush to fix aircraft that were left on the strip for a very short time and were wrecks when they returned. some of the community owned strips out this way cant be safely used because of the rubbish and the surface damage due to the locals ripping it up with a car after having a few.
Could all be in my head, coz I am a racist apparently.

Jamair 16th Mar 2003 10:54

Gotta agree with several comments here - these folk don't consider those terms offensive. In fact, they don't do the 'verbal repartee' thing - if youv'e p*ssed them off they won't swear at you, they'll clean your clock - usually with a dozen or so of the 'lations as well.

Also re the Wiz - a 'community' hereabouts got a grant and built a hospital, complete with a helipad. Its sole and only purpose was the care and wellbeing of the community. The pad had lights installed on towers, as well as in-ground illum of the pad and the walkway leading to it from the hospital. The lighting lasted less than a month before every one of the ground lights and tower lights was smashed. You just gotta shake your head......:confused:

404 Titan 16th Mar 2003 10:58

nicholas_hosties


Isn't it great when you live and fly in one of the remotest and truly beautiful places on the earth and all you can find to talk about is when you were first called a little name.
Yeah I do flying in one of the greatest places on the planet, but this forum isn’t about that. It’s about racism towards whites. Something you obviously haven’t had to deal with. Oh and by the way most whites are in these communities to help the local indigenous people, i.e., doctors, nurses, teachers, police etc. Why should they have to put up with racial slurs? Are you really saying that they deserve it?


Blackfella swearing is considered no stronger than Pommie git or **** etc. You can find them all in the dictionary.
Racial slurs are very different to name-calling.


Some people get annoyed when a blackfella does'nt say thankyou but in there culture everything belongs to everyone so there is no need for the word.
This forum isn’t about not being said thank you to. I have had many Indigenous Australians say thank you to me. It is about racial slurs that are made toward us and the double standards that exist in this country on this subject.


I remember a few years ago on an airstrip in the Kimberly five pilots were taken to court for drinking and leaving their emptys on the threshold, I would like to of known what a rfds pilot would of called them at four in the morning if fod had occured, stupid c*** springs to mind. Never seen a blackfella do that.
Yes they are stupid c**ts and deserved all they got. Have I seen Indigenous Australians do this? No I haven’t, but I have seen them burn down a hospital. Shall I call them stupid c**ts for doing this or will call me a racist.


So one, do not take it to heart, and two, remember some of you probably deserve it.
How the hell can you tell us that we probably deserved the racial abuse that is frequented at us in these communities? I think you need to go and live in one of these communities for a year or two to see what it is really like before making a comment like that. Then and only then will you be taken seriously. Until then F**K O*F.
:mad:

Woomera 16th Mar 2003 10:59

I think this thread has just about run its course now.


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