Crash at Camden
 

Just heard of reports of an aircraft down at Camden tonight 07/03 (around 1045UTC)

Reports of aircraft on fire .. with 2 pax ...

Any further heard ??

My thoughts and wishes are with all involved ...

from the details i have :

its sounds to be a duchess, the rego unknown, but the tail section is intact the tail had a brown stipe making on it but couldn't tell which flying organisation it was from. everything forward from the tail section look like a mangled wreck. im surprised the pilots survived the impact. the crash site is about 1/2 mile to the east of the airfield of the airport roughly in a 090-120 direction on top of the hill. At the crash site there was heavy machinery bits (old junk ) and stuff like that. scattered in the backyard.

Hope all are well .....

From NineMSN Site:

"Two men dragged from the burning wreckage of their light aircraft last night remained seriously injured in hospital after the crash on a property in Sydney's south-west.

Police were called to a property at the northern end of Camden Airport at about 9.40pm (AEDT) after property owners heard a loud crash and discovered burning wreckage in one of their paddocks.

They pulled two men from the plane aged 67 and 51.

The two men were taken to Camden hospital suffering severe burns.

The 67-year-old man was then transported by Careflight Helicopter to Liverpool hospital.

He remains in a critical condition.

The other victim, aged 51, was later taken to Liverpool hospital by ambulance, where he is in a serious condition.

Police believe the plane was a four-seater Beechcraft Duchess.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau will take over the crash investigation this morning."

Here's hoping...

Oh no. One of Bill's. Another sad day for GA in the Sydney basin.

My thoughts go out to all involved, directly or otherwise. I hope those injured can make a full recovery.

Regards,
OpsN.:(

As a result of the accident, well known and respected ATO/Instructor, Leslie W Morris (67)
passed away in Liverpool hospital this morning.

Leslie will be sadly missed by the industry.

Just saw it on channel 10 news.

Aircraft was VH-JWX. As mentioned earlier, everything forward of the tail has been destroyed by either impact or fire.

A tragic loss for those involved.

Les did several ATO visits to our organisation. A true gentleman who really knew his stuff. Vale Les. You will be missed.

RIP old mate!
 

What a shock to GA, especially the training environment Australia-wide. Les Morris was an exceptional chap with experiences and qualifications the majority of us could only ever dream about. He was an ATO for both fixed-wing and helicopters and will no doubt be sorely missed by everyone who was associated with him. I for one will miss his outstanding practical knowledge of the rules and regulations and his advice and assistance so freely given.

Farewell Leslie! Condolences to all his family and friends.

Peter and the crew at AEROWASP.

Second Pilot
 

Any news on the other pilot? I heard he was a United Airlines Captain.

My sympathy to family and friends.

Les Morris
 

Just found out about the passing of Les Morris.
Can't think of too much to say however I'm going to miss the man.
He has been a support to me over the last couple of years in more ways than one and I can't believe that I won't be running across him around the traps of the Sydney basin.
He was a fireball of energy, always a dry joke on his lips and wasn't backward about coming forward with either solicited or unsolicited advice on any aspect of aviation.
I for one feel most fortunate having met him and flown with him.
I'll miss his wit, wisdom and appalling dress sense for a long time to come.
Vale Les.... you're a bloody legend mate!!!!!

les morris
 

I learned alot from my few flights with les, things that I had not been shown or taught from any other ATO. Certainly did know his stuff, and is a great loss for the Aviation Industry. He even took me for a spin in his heron a couple of times.

The flight was an IFR renewal, and the other pilot I believe is still in hospital, with burns to 1/3 of his body. My condolences to Les' family, and the family of the other pilot.

The news about Les Morris hit hard. I trained Les on Lincolns back in 1960 - he was a good operator then. Ten days after the accident - has anyone yet got facts on the cause of the crash?

Lots of unsubstantiated rumours, no hard facts. A lot of armchair experts around YSBK claim they know the cause but we will all have to wait for the ATSB to complete their investigation.

It always amazes me how quick people are to blame "pilot error" (many of them pilots themselves) when they have no facts (except what they have seen in 20 seconds on Channel 10.)

What is a fact is that Les Morris was an extremely fastidious instructor & testing officer with over 40000 hours experience. He will be sadly missed.

Aerowasp,
" I for one will miss his knowledge of the regulations"
He must have forgotten the ones regarding EFATO at night!!!

exrba - in light of the circumstances involved, I find your comment to be way out of line. :mad:

Perhaps you should think before you post on pprune. If you were trying to be clever/witty/sarcastic - think again. :*

Disgraceful behaviour.:mad:

EXRBA
 

You mindless, insignificant little twit! Unless you have some first-hand information, which I very much doubt you do, I suggest you keep your smart-arsed comments to yourself.:mad:

Exerba does actually have a point regarding the reg's business.

Perhaps not the best place to post this ,however as old mate Packer has said,"think before ya print"

Some interesting posts here
 

I remember a couple of mates and I witnessed the Tamair prang which killed 2 trainees back in 1995.

After it was all over and we were heading back to the airport, the discussion was "What could have happened to cause such a tragedy?".

Not one person suggested intentional V1 cuts at night. We all thought it must have been some catastrophic event from which they could not recover. How wrong we were...

The CVR and subsequent evidence at the crash site put paid to that.

I'm with Propswinga on this one. That's one big hill off the end of 06.

Only time will tell.

exrba
 

Son..there are many words that could describe what you are, none particulary nice however I'll get to that in a moment.
I'll start with this....In over 14 years of being in and around this industry I've the pleasure of meeting some genuine gentlemen. I've had the pleasure of meeting some genuine professionals.
I've had the rare honour of meeting a few individuals who not only encompass both of the above qualities but who are truly unique.
Then there's some of Gods children who seem to be blessed with all of the above plus that extra something that seems to be not readily apparent (on the surface anyway) in the rest of the general population.
Les Morris was one of those special people...... period.

Exrbra, you on the other hand... are a gutless wonder. You're cheap,nasty,ignorant and no doubt, after seeing the crap that you wrote, one sad, lonely little man who really should stay at home playing combat sims or Flight Simulator 200 and stay with your little bug smasher on the weekends!

Any time you want to meet up and discuss this further I'd be more than happy to accomodate you...you little runt.
Thing is ......you won't.
If I've offended any of the genuine ppruners then I apologise however...some people need a good smack in the gob and that piece of excrement, exrba; is a prime example.
In any case, I've said my piece.
Vale Les

Propswinga,

I also knew of Les and ranked him right up there with old Billy Whitworth himself , I got the closest facts that will ever be known.