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KRviator 12th Feb 2024 22:48

OzRunways bought by Boeing
 
Just got an email from the OzR team saying that Boeing has purchased the company... TBH, I'm not sure how I feel about that given Boeing's recent and not-so-recent corporate direction and fear they may try to force their global-multinational mindset on the OzR team and take them away from what I've always imagined them to be, a small Aussie team who saw a need and filled it well.

Many years back, I couldn't get OzR to email the plan to my Dynon, and after a bit of back-and-forth, they worked out it was a tiny piece of code added to OzR that meant it didn't work with my antique iPad2. Code got tweaked in the next update and I've been seamlessly syncing my flightplans ever since and remained committed to their app because of that interaction - even if I do use Samsung for everything else in life - I hope that level of care and attention to their customers doesn't suffer with the new owners.

A Boeing Company

Continuing its focus to support pilots around the world with powerful and innovative applications, Boeing today announced it has acquired OzRunways. With this, OzRunways becomes part of the ForeFlight family.

“OzRunways and ForeFlight have a common culture of innovation – creating software with a focus on intuitive, pilot-centric design.
Now we are excited to join the ForeFlight team and collaborate on bringing even greater capabilities to pilots all over the globe.”
EDIT: Fixed title.

PiperCameron 12th Feb 2024 22:57

Sounds to me like Boeing/Foreflight, having almost totally conquered the North American market (with only a few scraps of opposition remaining), are turning their big guns/$$$ on the Australia/NZ one. It's nice to hear they're serious. In a win/win for both companies it's like-it-or-not, here we come!! :}

As a recent convert to Avplan, I'd be interested to hear what Bevan makes of this announcement.

mcoates 12th Feb 2024 23:32

I think it is worthwhile recognition of what the OzRunways team have developed over the past 20 something years. EDIT: (Sorry since 2011)

megle2 12th Feb 2024 23:42

Congratulations to OzRunways, creating and building a startup is very challenging, time for some cream


PiperCameron 13th Feb 2024 00:11


"The OzRunways apps you know and love will continue to be developed and run by our team based right here in Australia and New Zealand. There will be no immediate changes or interruptions to your existing subscription."
Presumably that means Foreflight won't be sold in Oz after all and they'll focus on Ozrunways development instead?

Jenna Talia 13th Feb 2024 06:42


Originally Posted by PiperCameron (Post 11595841)
Presumably that means Foreflight won't be sold in Oz after all and they'll focus on Ozrunways development instead?

The only thing that Boeing will be focused on is raising the subscription price, just like they did when they acquired Foreflight followed by Jeppesen then integrated Jepp into Foreflight, forcing Jepp customers to purchase an expensive Foreflight subscription.

nomess 13th Feb 2024 07:11

They will raise the price considerably and claim they have added ‘a few new features’ to it to make it sound all rosy.

Foreflight subscriptions are about 20-30% more expensive vs OzRunways, so price hikes are a given, regardless of the currency being positive to that side.

I’d be renewing or subscribing to OzRunways as soon as possible before that occurs.

Head..er..wind 13th Feb 2024 07:58

Or better still, support the Australian one; AvPlan

Hoosten 13th Feb 2024 08:37

Boeing, Foreflight, Garmin and Textron, using market dominance to rape their captive subjects :ok:

PiperCameron 13th Feb 2024 21:43


Originally Posted by nomess (Post 11595973)
They will raise the price considerably and claim they have added ‘a few new features’ to it to make it sound all rosy.

Foreflight subscriptions are about 20-30% more expensive vs OzRunways, so price hikes are a given, regardless of the currency being positive to that side.

If they do that, they'll lose their existing Ozrunways customer base to Avplan.

Oh, wait.. they already are!! :cool:

Squawk7700 13th Feb 2024 22:48


Originally Posted by PiperCameron (Post 11596569)
If they do that, they'll lose their existing Ozrunways customer base to Avplan.

Oh, wait.. they already are!! :cool:

Do you have any evidence to back that statement?

PiperCameron 13th Feb 2024 23:29


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 11596609)
Do you have any evidence to back that statement?

Yeah.. me. And having showed a few of the guys around here what Avplan can do that Ozrunways can't (eg. glide range ring, loads more traffic displayed) I'm sure I'm not the only one. :E

(Refer post #2 in this thread)

Squawk7700 14th Feb 2024 00:40


Originally Posted by PiperCameron (Post 11596628)
Yeah.. me. And having showed a few of the guys around here what Avplan can do that Ozrunways can't (eg. glide range ring, loads more traffic displayed) I'm sure I'm not the only one. :E

(Refer post #2 in this thread)

Ok, so I’ll take that as a no.

Head..er..wind 14th Feb 2024 01:02


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 11596660)
Ok, so I’ll take that as a no.

Petulance 101. You asked a question, and it was answered. As usual you can’t accept that you might not be correct.

Fred Gassit 14th Feb 2024 01:08

While I don't want to gloat as I quite like Oz runways, our company is going to Avplan for the reasons listed above.
If Boeings acquisition of Ozrwys gos as smoothly as their Aviall purchase did, its hard to see any upside for the consumer.

Bug 14th Feb 2024 02:06

I tried AVPLAN in past but gave up as not as user friendly as OzR.
However I would like to try AVPLAN again if Bevan or someone can point to some improvement in usability, or some good education material.
This OzR change in ownership would seem to be Bevan's golden opportunity. Hope he grasps it by addressing the negatives of AVPLAN whilst retaining the positives.
I am keen to support local business, but AVPLAN needs to improve compared to my last try some years ago.

Squawk7700 14th Feb 2024 02:06


Originally Posted by Head..er..wind (Post 11596665)
Petulance 101. You asked a question, and it was answered. As usual you can’t accept that you might not be correct.

Not at all thanks.

When someone publicly states that a company are losing their customer base to another vendor and the related data set is “one single user,” the statistics don’t really back up the throw-away line that was quoted.

I don’t need to agree either way, it’s not of interest to me, but what is interesting is people making bold statements with no data.

It’s like saying “all the doors are falling off the 737 max.”

zegnaangelo 14th Feb 2024 07:48

If it's a Boeing, I ain't going.

Hoosten 14th Feb 2024 12:34

So, when Boeing or whoever hike the subscription price, and they will, will Bevan666 hike his price to just under Boeing's? Bet he does. There's loyalty to your customers, and then there's not. Ozrunways have 'licked' their lips. Avplan are licking.

CharlieLimaX-Ray 14th Feb 2024 19:57

Jeppesen was good when the local operation was run by Geoff Brown, but the price rises are bit over the top these days.



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