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deja vu 8th Feb 2024 01:04


Originally Posted by Rogerwood (Post 11592592)
Yep, about right. I recently interviewed and after getting the pay scale, bond for type rating, length of roster, cost of a 1 bedroom unit in proximity to Mascot being about $700 to $800 a week it just didn’t make sense.

Makes sense only as a stepping stone. They make it obvious that a new joiner is not a valuable asset, half pay until released to line, a bond for a poorly run type endorsement. Not sure they actually want people to stay long term.


donpizmeov 8th Feb 2024 02:54


Originally Posted by Trevor the lover (Post 11587126)
Trouble is, if you go into flight levels and let the rubber jungle out for a trot around the cabin, you can do whatever you want with the presurisation and bleeds,
ya gotta turn around

See what happens when you go and drive tractors mate!

morno 9th Feb 2024 05:26


Originally Posted by Mach E Avelli (Post 11586854)
Bright green lights suggest all is well. The bleeds off lights should be amber, but from memory Beech did it wrong, in keeping with the rest of that cluttered cockpit. It's as if they set out to trap the unwary. That includes yours truly, who when flying several types, got sucked in by B200 green bleed lights more than once (fortunately picked up after takeoff).
Also, waiting until the line up phase to select something so vital as pressurization is another trap. The B200 factory checklist is truly stone age. Modern thinking is to get critical stuff done before moving, leaving pilots free to concentrate on the outside world as they taxy.

You do raise a very valid point, ie. the colour of the annunciators.

My personal discipline in regard to this particular matter was that apart from the Med Bus On (specific to our aeromed aircraft) annunciator, there should be no lights down there before take off. If there was, then I’d missed something.

Any time that I had reversed a switch after a completed checklist, I scrolled the electronic checklist back to the start of that phase and checked the necessary checklist had been completed on lineup.

Trevor the lover 9th Feb 2024 05:32

Yes Don, you are so right. The adult leaves the room and the pea shooters come our, finger paint gets chucked around, the girls light up............. Like when you left the old Plank mate, the place fell apart. The PLTOFFs all went stupid...aaah, flamin 'eck, whaddayado??

Clinton McKenzie 9th Feb 2024 06:15

Re the colour of annunciator lights issue, wearing my CVDPA director's hat I can't resist pointing out the exquisite irony of colour usage that confuses. Identifying the meaning of lights that happen to be coloured produces the safety outcome, not identifying the colour. Perhaps pilots with some kinds of colour vision deficiency wouldn't be so confused?

In any event, any aviation-related context in which important information is conveyed by colour alone is the product of very bad design, plain and simple.

(And I could be wrong, but I thought all the studies of hypoxia - or maybe it was CO poisoning or both - showed that audible alarms were more likely to be acted upon?)

Fooman 9th Feb 2024 07:52

That's the minimum, end of story. Ambulance Victoria will never compromise on this.

rcoight 9th Feb 2024 23:59

If that’s true, I find it hard to believe they’re getting any applications at all considering how abysmal the wages are (if they are as claimed above).

neville_nobody 10th Feb 2024 01:28


Multiple sources say it has become difficult to find and retain pilots because of the attraction of better air ambulance pay rates interstate and the lure of commercial work.
Worth pointing out this is commercial work. It is a government contract operated for profit by Pel Air to provide a service. So if they aren’t paying enough to retain qualified staff they need to pay more money. They should not now be trying to make out like they’re a charity because they don’t won’t to pay market salary.

Ladloy 10th Feb 2024 23:14


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11594120)
Worth pointing out this is commercial work. It is a government contract operated for profit by Pel Air to provide a service. So if they aren’t paying enough to retain qualified staff they need to pay more money. They should not now be trying to make out like they’re a charity because they don’t won’t to pay market salary.

its the rex way

Danieltig 19th Feb 2024 23:29

Crop duster down near Bourke - Pilot deceased.
 
It is always heartbreaking to hear about accidents in the aviation industry, especially when they result in the loss of a pilot's life. The recent incident involving a crop duster down near Bourke is a stark reminder of the risks that pilots face every time they take to the skies.


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