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redsnail 18th Jan 2024 11:28

I think there's a world of difference in addressing the chief pilot and or boss.
"G'day Compy" versus " Dear Mr Stall".
"To whom it may concern" sounds like a letter from the council about your bins.

A freshly minted CPL holder can do a lot to help themselves.
For starters, your backs aren't knackered yet so should be able to lift stuff. If you don't know how to lift safely, learn. (It's all about bracing the core so you don't strain yourselves). Many of my colleagues in the bizjet world have stuffed their backs because they don't know how to lift safely.
As many have said - get your Dangerous Goods cert, a First Aid cert, maybe bus ticket, if it still exists, Night VFR (easier to keep current than an Instrument rating).
Hospitality experience is useful - either for a job while you wait or if you do scenics etc, just learning how to talk to people.
Learn about the area you're in. Eg, if they haven't historically taken low houred pilots, don't go there. You're wasting your time. (Hint: if it's a nice place to live, they probably don't take new CPLs)
If you can, get some experience doing basic maintenance. You'll be the one doing the 50 hourlies. You'll also be the one assisting the engineers doing 100 hourlies.

Re weight. That's making me giggle. I weighed 60kg back then, a colleague weighed 100kg. He was a big strong lad. He could happily push a C207 around but he found clambering around a C207 removing/installing seats a pain. We played to our strengths. He could push my C207 where I needed it while I installed/removed his seats. Voila. Teamwork.

To the OP and other new CPLers, good luck, you'll need it as well as a sense of humour....

Clare Prop 18th Jan 2024 13:54


Originally Posted by Uplinker (Post 11578458)
Blimey, this all seems a bit harsh !

New pilots looking for their first job are probably going to be young and a bit "innocent" about the world of work, and it seems a bit punitive to expect them to know exactly how to address people and the command structure of companies. Or how to go about impressing people.

How many good people have been 'put in the bin' because of some perceived but unintentional sleight, I wonder ?

At least "Dear Sir/Madam" is respectful and polite, (and non sexist). And how is a prospective new pilot employee to know if it is OK to directly address the CP, or if the CP will be personally opening their letter ? It might be the deputy CP, someone in admin or HR.

Using someone's name without knowing them might be regarded by some as being a bit over-familiar or a bit cocky.......? Maybe it is different over there.

Good luck to the OP.

I learned all this at school, the importance of addressing people correctly, how to write a job application letter, even how to fold the paper before it went into the envelope so that it opened nicely.. Is this no longer taught and if not then why not?

It's just basic good manners, knowing how to address people. Plus you want to have an edge over all the others, so make an effort. "Dear Sir/Madam" is about is polite as "Dear Whatsyername" and shows a laziness that could reflect the work ethic.

Mach E Avelli 18th Jan 2024 18:36

If it’s a small GA outfit with only a few aircraft the Chief Pilot could be your age, or maybe younger, with only a year or two in the industry. While it’s important to make a good impression with this person, it’s unlikely he or she will have.the power to hire pilots. This means you will need an intro to the real boss, most likely the owner.
Having said that, do NOT attempt to bypass the CP. Show respect. Ideally the boss will also show respect by involving the CP in your interview. If the boss does not include the CP, it may well be that the CP is only a token “fall guy” who is there to appease CASA.

Kundry 18th Jan 2024 22:28

stay out of mischief with the white fella customs. address the CP as wawa, slap a big salty barramundi on the desk. will get you a job guaranteed.

Clare Prop 19th Jan 2024 03:10

Hiring and firing is a CP responsibility

megan 19th Jan 2024 03:54


Chuck Yeager with the personality traits of Josef Stalin
Chuck believed his own fiction.

Cedrik 19th Jan 2024 03:55


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11578906)
Hiring and firing is a CP responsibility

In smaller companies usually the owner operator, most bigger companies I know the CP is only in title, real world he does what he's told. You don't have a job otherwise.

PiperCameron 19th Jan 2024 05:38


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11578913)
Chuck believed his own fiction.

He was American - they do that. So do folks over here who watch too much TV. :}

Mach E Avelli 19th Jan 2024 08:24


Originally Posted by Cedrik (Post 11578914)
In smaller companies usually the owner operator, most bigger companies I know the CP is only in title, real world he does what he's told. You don't have a job otherwise.

Unfortunately this is all too often true. Small companies often run as dictatorships. Larger companies are sometimes run by bean counters and human remains. CEO and commercial interference in technical and safety matters happens more frequently than CASA would ever be likely to realise.
That’s when Chief Pilots should walk.
Be wary of companies that frequently advertise these posts.

Uplinker 19th Jan 2024 08:39


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11578575)
I learned all this at school, the importance of addressing people correctly, how to write a job application letter, even how to fold the paper before it went into the envelope so that it opened nicely.. Is this no longer taught and if not then why not?......

No, it isn't - well it wasn't taught to me at school or flight school - but the Union should be able to help with this. And teachers at my Secondary school were addressed as Sir or Ma'am.

....It's just basic good manners, knowing how to address people. Plus you want to have an edge over all the others, so make an effort. "Dear Sir/Madam" is about is polite as "Dear Whatsyername" and shows a laziness that could reflect the work ethic.
Yes, I am agreeing about good manners, but simply concerned about the number of good people like this who were put in the bin because they made a perceived rookie mistake - they are rookies !
I don't agree that it necessarily shows laziness, and 'Sir' or 'Madam' might be awkward, but it is not impolite.

But I would like to think that a CP would understand this, and - given the time and money the hopeful new pilot has already invested - would read beyond the polite, (albeit completely anonymous), introduction, to see what the hopeful actually had to offer, and their life skills etc.

With your mentoring, they might develop to be your best and most loyal pilot !

mikewil 19th Jan 2024 21:49


Originally Posted by Uplinker (Post 11579023)
No, it isn't - well it wasn't taught to me at school or flight school - but the Union should be able to help with this. And teachers at my Secondary school were addressed as Sir or Ma'am.

Yes, I am agreeing about good manners, but simply concerned about the number of good people like this who were put in the bin because they made a perceived rookie mistake - they are rookies !
I don't agree that it necessarily shows laziness, and 'Sir' or 'Madam' might be awkward, but it is not impolite.

But I would like to think that a CP would understand this, and - given the time and money the hopeful new pilot has already invested - would read beyond the polite, (albeit completely anonymous), introduction, to see what the hopeful actually had to offer, and their life skills etc.

With your mentoring, they might develop to be your best and most loyal pilot !

I agree with Clare Prop on this one. I mean sure, you may have put a potentially good application in the bin, but if you have 100 resumes on your desk, all who meet your minimums, how are you going to cut down the number to select a handful to invite for an interview. I would be far more likely to select someone who had bothered to research my name and something about my company than someone who just did a copy/paste job with the "dear sir/madam" routine. Now I would probably read a bit further than instantly binning at the point I came across Dear Sir/Madam, but they wouldn't be doing themselves any favours and wouldn't be likely to make any kind of shortlist unless they had something particularly stand out on their resume.

I am far more sympathetic to those who have reached airline hiring minimums, with a stack of multi/turbine time who miss out because they aren't good at the "tell me about a time when" HR B.S. Now there would be MANY great candidates for an airline (or other large aircraft) type job who miss out because of this nonsense.

What we are talking about here is pretty easy to do and it is quite unbelievable that you need to do very little these days to 'stand out' as a low hour job seeker. Name of CP/owner at top of cover letter, 20 hours in a C206/C210/C182 and BAM you are in the shortlist for an interview. Who would have thought.

Clare Prop 20th Jan 2024 03:31

And yet the Big Schools will tell them they need to just buy more and more courses and qualifications, oh and a Job Ready course blah blah when what they really need is some interesting command time in their logbook. Would you really want someone whose first timein command outside their flying school's comfort zone will be with a load of passengers in the back?

A trip around the outback, across the Nullarbor, things like that will be far more relevant that 70 hours flying within a small triangle within 100nm of home and a swag of ratings.

theprincex 20th Jan 2024 09:34


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 11579627)
And yet the Big Schools will tell them they need to just buy more and more courses and qualifications, oh and a Job Ready course blah blah when what they really need is some interesting command time in their logbook. Would you really want someone whose first timein command outside their flying school's comfort zone will be with a load of passengers in the back?

A trip around the outback, across the Nullarbor, things like that will be far more relevant that 70 hours flying within a small triangle within 100nm of home and a swag of ratings.

Spot on and looking back I was nearly sucked in the trap, I have flown "desired" aircraft by Darwin standards throughout my training but that doesn't matter due to the fact the aircraft HAD to be back at base an hour before last light! No allowance for multi day trips with fellow students exploring country airstrips interstate, instructors picking set routes *yuck* and laxed cancellation policies for inclement weather which was counter intuitive. My relearning perse in the BE58 and 206 had me buzzing for more but then my bank account ran dry! This all comes back to students being sold a lie at the beginning and incompetent teachings.

Clare Prop 20th Jan 2024 21:53


Originally Posted by theprincex (Post 11579736)
Spot on and looking back I was nearly sucked in the trap, I have flown "desired" aircraft by Darwin standards throughout my training but that doesn't matter due to the fact the aircraft HAD to be back at base an hour before last light! No allowance for multi day trips with fellow students exploring country airstrips interstate, instructors picking set routes *yuck* and laxed cancellation policies for inclement weather which was counter intuitive. My relearning perse in the BE58 and 206 had me buzzing for more but then my bank account ran dry! This all comes back to students being sold a lie at the beginning and incompetent teachings.

And as the government money keeps pouring in they are now using the "we need more women in Aviation" mantra and even targeting schoolkids now too to try and suck more people in. I tell them to talk to employers and financial advisors first but the glossy sales pitches are very effective and they would rather take financial advice from a salesman or a Grade 3 insutrctor, the sort of advice that could probably lead to a real financial planner getting in some strife...

I reckon they should have a limited number of VET places, and the funding only becomes available for the next starter when someone who has got the loan has held down employment for a year. It is meant to fulfil an insutry need and it clearly isn't. After the SOAR debacle you'd think that the government would be more careful with those astronomical amounts of taxpayers money but there are some very powerful people who rely on this scheme so nothing will change.

Otherwise this will soon be the only training pathway available apart from RAAus.

lucille 21st Jan 2024 10:32

Reading this thread, I’m amazed at the level of complication, the jumping through of hoops and the tiptoeing over eggshells that a 200 hr CPL holder has to demonstrate to get their first job. Yikes!

Comparatively speaking, we really did have it that much easier 50 years ago. Ironically, it seems the only things which haven’t changed in the intervening half century are the aircraft. We were flying 210s also back then.

Aussie Bob 21st Jan 2024 20:26


Reading this thread, I’m amazed at the level of complication
I am with you Lucille, over the past few decades I have been involved with the hiring of more than a few newbies. For a start, virtually all unsolicited resumes are automatically chucked in the bin. The exception being one that turns up just as a position becomes vacant.

Next comes "Johny on the spot", if there's a job going he is in with a good chance. Next comes an ad on AFAP and a lucky dip of the applicants. A few get interviewed and a decision is made. A few references are checked.

Yes, it could have been done better and of all employed only around 50% have proved really good. These are snapped up by bigger companies within a year or less. The unsuited are either shown the door or leave of their own accord. I have seen the odd referee re-contacted and told in no short terms they gave a dud reference.

Nothing much has changed in 50 years as far as I see. Its a difficult industry :-)

mikewil 21st Jan 2024 21:12


Originally Posted by Aussie Bob (Post 11580641)

I have seen the odd referee re-contacted and told in no short terms they gave a dud reference.

That bit made me laugh out loud, holding the referee to account :D

compressor stall 21st Jan 2024 22:02

Not so much for the first job but the second.

Your real referees aren’t the ones you have on your resume, they are the ones you don’t know about.

There is one degree of separation In the industry. Especially with social media.

Cedrik 21st Jan 2024 23:51


Originally Posted by compressor stall (Post 11580690)
Not so much for the first job but the second.

Your real referees aren’t the ones you have on your resume, they are the ones you don’t know about.

There is one degree of separation In the industry. Especially with social media.

Then there's the innuendo and bad reports of those with self interest and hidden agendas.

Numerous people I have worked with had terrible reputations but were hard workers and always got the job done.


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