Nauru Oz Base
Saw an advertisement recently for crews to fly for said carrier based in Oz.
Anyone here know what their t and c, rosters, morale etc like? Thanks |
Originally Posted by HappyBandit
(Post 11351280)
Saw an advertisement recently for crews to fly for said carrier based in Oz.
Anyone here know what their t and c, rosters, morale etc like? Thanks |
If it's an advert for Air Nauru, it must be quite old. Hasn't been known as such for many years - since 2006.
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Nauru Air FO positions
Advertised on Seek 4 days ago
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Don't worry about T's and C's or rosters or morale, take the job if you need it, use it as a stepping stone only for something better at the first opportunity. Thats exactly what they will do with you.
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Prickly, I'm not sure you know what you’re talking about.
I have several close friends there (which, incidentally, is Nauru Airlines and not Air Nauru nor Nauru Air as some posters think) and they speak highly of the place. “That’s exactly what they will do with you.“ That couldn’t be further from the truth, they offer a career path and there have been about 6 - 8 reasonably recent F/O upgrades to command in lieu of any direct intake of Captains, something that is/was available to them. Certainly some crew were let go (redundant) as the pandemic bit, which airlines didn’t, but rarely has someone been terminated for other than sound reasons – were you one of them Prickly? My friends tell me less than a handful in that category over the last decade – that’s at odds with “exactly what they will do with you”. There are those, of course, who have left for other opportunities – some recent departures for US carriers or mainline, for example. They definitely work hard and earn their money but the rewards are there and loyalty brings dividends if you stick around. Some who joined as F/O’s over 10 years ago are still there – must say something about the outfit. |
They definitely work hard and earn their money but the rewards are there and loyalty brings dividends if you stick around. Some who joined as F/O’s over 10 years ago are still there – must say something about the outfit. |
Are they still FO’s? |
Mr witwiw,
My comments regarding the thread starter's enquiry were meant to be generic and applied to any airline anywhere. But if your close friends are happy at Air Nauru or whatever it's now called, they need to thank the pilot group of 1988 for making it so. |
Good on you, Prickly, for clarifying your comment. It was far from obvious that it was generic and I'd doubt many read it as other than a specific response to a specific question.
Yes, the current airline is in fine shape, but not as a result of the misfits and mercenaries who joined in '88 following a major industrial upheaval which saw the sacking of just about the entire pilot group employed there at the time. The current good status of the airline can be traced back to the newer group of pilots there in '96 who, with the encouragement of the then Nauruan government and the establishment of the Nauru Air Corporation, undertook getting an Australian AOC. The rag-tag group who arrived in '88 had long gone by then. |
Originally Posted by witwiw
(Post 11354894)
Good on you, Prickly, for clarifying your comment. It was far from obvious that it was generic and I'd doubt many read it as other than a specific response to a specific question.
Yes, the current airline is in fine shape, but not as a result of the misfits and mercenaries who joined in '88 following a major industrial upheaval which saw the sacking of just about the entire pilot group employed there at the time. The current good status of the airline can be traced back to the newer group of pilots there in '96 who, with the encouragement of the then Nauruan government and the establishment of the Nauru Air Corporation, undertook getting an Australian AOC. The rag-tag group who arrived in '88 had long gone by then. |
This help, Deja Vu? From an article by a former Air Nauru pilot.
In 1988, a strike by Air Nauru pilots for better pay and safety conditions took place. The President of Nauru, realizing too late that the airline losses were crippling the island's economy, sold the two Boeing 727s. This left three 737s at the time of the strike, the first to hit the government on home ground. The President reacted angrily by sacking all except a handful of pilots. His actions alarmed the civil aviation authorities of USA, New Zealand and Australia, resulting in the suspension of Air Nauru's AOC. Undeterred, he quickly recruited volunteer pilots from Indian Airlines to replace the sacked Australians and for six months the 737s flew under Private category with passengers travelling free of charge. Mismanagement of the island's wealth and the resulting economic troubles caused the airline to lose large amounts of money, and on some occasions become insolvent. Its operations were also suspended for brief periods in the 1990s because of concerns raised by Australia over the airworthiness and safety record of its aircraft. Airline offices and equipment were also frequently repossessed by the Australian government for Nauru's repeated defaults on foreign loans. |
Originally Posted by prickly
(Post 11353617)
Don't worry about T's and C's or rosters or morale, take the job if you need it, use it as a stepping stone only for something better at the first opportunity. Thats exactly what they will do with you.
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Well, there’s some twisted logic in kb's1st quote: the airline is sending them broke so you sack the pilots, bring in more and then fly around without charging fares – helps go even more broke, I guess, and faster.
The pilots who didn’t get the sack had ingratiated themselves to the right people – like the one who allegedly flew a 737 single pilot to get the aeroplane back to base when another crew member was sick. That “hero” nonetheless had to wait some 10 years after he retired to get his super from them. FWIW the father of a school friend of mine was one of the pilots who got shafted. My friend’s father had his Nauruan bank account frozen and lost his savings. He also had personal possessions confiscated (motor bike, room contents etc) - it was by all accounts a vindictive move by the president back then, nothing more. |
Do a search.
A few years ago it seemed pretty vocal here on Prune that there was some “apprehension”. But since then there’s been some posts that seem to be celebrating the “ousting” of a previous management group. Maybe that indicates good things these days? |
[QUOTE]the “ousting” of a previous management group.[QUOTE]
I think you mean “previous MISmanagement group”. |
Apologies for thread drift - has TJ found another operation to whom he provides his services or has retirement finally beckoned??
Cheers |
I doubt many people really care being glad to see the end of the three stooges.
They might find it hard to get a gig if other operators do their due diligence and understand the circumstances in which that group left Nauru Airlines. |
Has anyone done interviews that would be kind enough to share their experiences?
Also keen to hear from anyone currently working for them. |
Originally Posted by ringbinder
(Post 11357662)
Well, there’s some twisted logic in kb's1st quote: the airline is sending them broke so you sack the pilots, bring in more and then fly around without charging fares – helps go even more broke, I guess, and faster.
The pilots who didn’t get the sack had ingratiated themselves to the right people – like the one who allegedly flew a 737 single pilot to get the aeroplane back to base when another crew member was sick. That “hero” nonetheless had to wait some 10 years after he retired to get his super from them. FWIW the father of a school friend of mine was one of the pilots who got shafted. My friend’s father had his Nauruan bank account frozen and lost his savings. He also had personal possessions confiscated (motor bike, room contents etc) - it was by all accounts a vindictive move by the president back then, nothing more. |
Re previous post . The President laid on a flight for all the striking pilots to return to Nauru from Melbourne to negotiate new terms but this was refused on the advice of the then AFAP. Pity because the problem could have been solved to the satisfaction on both sides.
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Good to see you back Centaurus, I was thinking its been so long a charge of AWOL should be considered. ;)
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Hear, hear.
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"In 1988, a strike by Air Nauru pilots for better pay and safety conditions took place" - from your book.
"I was one of the non-strikers and never regretted it." And if the pilots on strike had returned to Nauru "the problem could have been solved to the satisfaction on both sides" Is it then the case that you'd have benefited from the improved pay and conditions without having supported those trying to better things? "I left for a better job a few months later" Why? |
Originally Posted by Centaurus
(Post 11365943)
Re previous post . The President laid on a flight for all the striking pilots to return to Nauru from Melbourne to negotiate new terms but this was refused on the advice of the then AFAP. Pity because the problem could have been solved to the satisfaction on both sides.
And the AFAP involvement you mention is pure fantasy. The AFAP did not dictate, direct or involve themselves in any shape or form except tp provide the use of their offices, moral support and secretarial facilities as they would do for any IFALPA member. The NAPA were grateful to the AFAP but never allowed them to run the dispute. |
Originally Posted by deja vu
(Post 11367868)
Why couldn't new terms be negotiated while the pilots were in Melbourne, they tried for four weeks. Anyway, as you well know, the strike was not about "new terms" or even the appalling safety issues in the airline at that stage. And the AFAP involvement you mention is pure fantasy. The AFAP did not dictate, direct or involve themselves in any shape or form except tp provide the use of their offices, moral support and secretarial facilities as they would do for any IFALPA member. The NAPA were grateful to the AFAP but never allowed them to run the dispute.
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If they are advertising, why don't you apply, have an interview and find out directly?
Or, at least ring HR etc and ask directly about the T&C's but make sure you get the name right :ok: You don't seem to be getting far here. |
Was anyone hired post the recent advert and interviews
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Originally Posted by frozen59
(Post 11379037)
Was anyone hired post the recent advert and interviews
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yep, I know of a few. |
Originally Posted by zanzibar
(Post 11379631)
So, are the T's and C's to your liking?
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Originally Posted by HappyBandit
(Post 11379765)
not sure why you're being condescending.
You’ve been chasing information and now you claim to know of a few that have been employed there. I’m guessing Zanzibar was suggesting you’d have asked them. |
Goodness me, I ask a straightforward question and I’m accused of being condescending. Wtiwiw has understood my intent.
I had to look it up to see if it was even remotely appropriate: condescending adjective having or showing an attitude of patronising superiority. Can’t see how that fits. Sensodyne might help. |
Originally Posted by HappyBandit
(Post 11379511)
yep, I know of a few.
like if training has started etc, how many have been hired, asking for a friend |
Originally Posted by zanzibar
(Post 11380173)
Goodness me, I ask a straightforward question and I’m accused of being condescending. Wtiwiw has understood my intent. I had to look it up to see if it was even remotely appropriate: condescendingadjectivehaving or showing an attitude of patronising superiority. Can’t see how that fits. Sensodyne might help.
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