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PiperCameron 7th Dec 2023 01:48


Originally Posted by helispotter (Post 11552223)
That aside, it is also very difficult to believe that departments responsible for advising government on economic and industry decisions are stacked full of ANU economics graduates and that they somehow all have a 'group think' that seeks to "deliberately make it unattractive to manufacture in Australia".

My perception is that (foreign based) car manufacturers progressively departed from Australia as they were unable to lobby federal or state governments for financial packages, tax offsets etc that made it sufficiently attractive to maintain a manufacturing base here when they can find cheaper production line labour with lower work conditions elsewhere, perhaps also with more government 'sweeteners'. That is the nature of multi-national companies. It had nothing to do with any ANU Faculty of Economics. But happy to learn if anyone can explain the actual factors in the demise of that industry here.

As with most media news stories there are always two sides - the one the public gets to see and the one they don't. As someone closely involved in the car industry demise, all I'll say here is that the (government-assisted) selling off of the Melbourne plastics manufacturing industry and the resulting loss of thousands of allied jobs to overseas interests a decade or so before left the car makers with little choice. There were good reasons for GMH/Ford/Toyota to stay here if they could - which is why they are still around, even as shells of their old selves - but even local companies have to be competitive on the world stage.

Maybe it has very little to do with any ANU Faculty of Economics or any other large consulting firm's reports, but government meddling (both state and federal) in economic and industry decisions they don't understand is part of life in this country. The scary part is that our aviation industry gets treated no differently.

nonsense 7th Dec 2023 08:08


Originally Posted by PiperCameron (Post 11552614)
There were good reasons for GMH ... to stay here if they could - which is why they are still around, even as shells of their old selves

I had a warranty issue a couple of years ago on a Holden with just 35,000kms.
The local Kia dealer who sold the car new and still sell Holden parts basically told me not to even bother trying to make a claim...

I did mention that I wouldn't ever buy another Holden, which got me a sympathetic smile.
(I didn't buy this one; I inherited it from my father who ignored my advice to buy a Toyota or a Hyundai.)

PiperCameron 7th Dec 2023 23:57


Originally Posted by nonsense (Post 11552744)
I had a warranty issue a couple of years ago on a Holden with just 35,000kms.
The local Kia dealer who sold the car new and still sell Holden parts basically told me not to even bother trying to make a claim...

Yep, it'd be messy! As an interesting aside, an entirely new industry developed out of COVID - the third-party world-wide sale and distribution of spare parts for cars, industrial equipment, aircraft, electronics, you name it. It seems shortages during COVID resulted in enterprising individuals skilled in logistics literally cold-calling distribution warehouses across the globe and offering to sell whatever they had sitting on their shelves to desperate customers in other countries (like Australia). To avoid serious scrutiny it's often called the "obsolete parts market" (even if the parts aren't really obsolete).

Nobody buys manufacturer-supplied parts direct from the manufacturer any more (well, at least you don't have to if you don't want to). Buyer beware.

The Wawa Zone 10th Dec 2023 07:48


Originally Posted by PiperCameron (Post 11552614)
As with most media news stories there are always two sides - the one the public gets to see and the one they don't. As someone closely involved in the car industry demise, all I'll say here is that the (government-assisted) selling off of the Melbourne plastics manufacturing industry and the resulting loss of thousands of allied jobs to overseas interests a decade or so before left the car makers with little choice. There were good reasons for GMH/Ford/Toyota to stay here if they could - which is why they are still around, even as shells of their old selves - but even local companies have to be competitive on the world stage.

Maybe it has very little to do with any ANU Faculty of Economics or any other large consulting firm's reports, but government meddling (both state and federal) in economic and industry decisions they don't understand is part of life in this country. The scary part is that our aviation industry gets treated no differently.

Or would it have been a case, partly, that the Australian manufacturers could nod would not sell the cars that Australians wanted at the prices they wanted to pay ?

PiperCameron 11th Dec 2023 00:01


Originally Posted by The Wawa Zone (Post 11554270)
Or would it have been a case, partly, that the Australian manufacturers could nod would not sell the cars that Australians wanted at the prices they wanted to pay ?

Partly. Why "Buy Australian" when you can buy cheaper from overseas?? :ugh:


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