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0ttoL 22nd Jun 2021 02:55

Aircraft down near Moorabbin 22-June-2021
 
Reports of a plane down near Moorabbin.
Initial reports put it on the Capital Golf course but it seems further North than that.

Looks like it was doing circuits on 35
Hopefully, all onboard are OK.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c88d25cc66.png

IFEZ 22nd Jun 2021 03:33

Caller to 3AW said it was EFATO into Capital Golf Course clipped trees on way in and flipped. 6 POB. At time of call, 5 were out safely, pilot still on board. Not sure how accurate this report was. Guess we'll find out soon enough. Fingers crossed all ok.

Checklist Charlie 22nd Jun 2021 03:57

Did you ever do a load check when stepping up to a larger capacity/heavier aircraft.

CC

p_aero 22nd Jun 2021 04:13

We had sandbags for the nose locker and instructor rating students to fill seats. YMMB in 80's and 90's.

0ttoL 22nd Jun 2021 04:20

It's been confirmed that the pilot was the only one onboard.
Taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Cherokee 6, I believe

Jnr380 22nd Jun 2021 04:41


Originally Posted by 0ttoL (Post 11066039)
It's been confirmed that the pilot was the only one onboard.
Taken to hospital with serious injuries.

Cherokee 6, I believe

I think it PA-28, VH-CWW from what I can work out from the grainy images, but I could be wrong.

Squawk7700 22nd Jun 2021 04:48


Originally Posted by Jnr380 (Post 11066042)
I think it PA-28, VH-CWW from what I can work out from the grainy images, but I could be wrong.

Try CWK perhaps, registered to Blue Demon.

Jnr380 22nd Jun 2021 04:50


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 11066043)
Try CWK perhaps, registered to Blue Demon.


my mistake!

CoodaShooda 22nd Jun 2021 07:43

Newspaper online headline “Pilot saved from fiery crash”.

Accompanying photo suggested a significant lack of burnt aircraft amongst the wreckage.

First_Principal 22nd Jun 2021 21:45

My recollection of the '6 is that the fuel control system was different or more complex than some other machines?

Definitely not casting aspersions or making any suggestions as I know nothing about this prang, but if it should turn out to be a fuel delivery issue I wouldn't be entirely surprised. The ergonomics of some craft, and the lack of standardisation between them all unnecessarily contribute to many incidents and accidents, IMV.

43Inches 23rd Jun 2021 00:27

Cherokee 6 (PA32-300) has the 5 position selector, one for each tank and off. The Lance (PA32R-300) has two interconnected tanks on each side with a 3 position selector, left/right/off.

Whilst having a selector for each tank might complicate it slightly, the selector is in pretty good position under the throttle, so is not hidden from view or fiddly. I could see issues if a Lance pilot went back and flew one with minimal time on the books, there could be some assumptions made wrt fuel that might haunt them.

As far as standardisation goes, this is a 1977 machine. You will need some time travel kit to fight that war.

Desert Flower 23rd Jun 2021 07:52

The latest news from a Channel 10 reporter is that the ATSB is going to analyse the flight data recorder to determine what went wrong. :ugh:

DF.

megan 23rd Jun 2021 09:32

Saw that DF, seems the wing jettison system worked quite well though.

The local mayor would like the airport closed as he doesn't wish to see any repeats, perhaps given the car crashes, injuries and deaths on his roads he might consider closing them as well while he's at it.

cattletruck 23rd Jun 2021 10:21

This article was in my morning paper today.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...22-p5836i.html

On initial reading I thought the local mayor, Cr Steve Staikos, was doing the typical reaction of advocating the airport be closed, but then as I read further in disbelief he is actually advocating the cessation of "big box" development around Moorabbin airport because it is eroding the safety margins of the facility.

Unfortunately a number of "big boxes" have already been built rather close to the airport action.

runway16 23rd Jun 2021 21:08

Accident near Moorabbin airport
 
Never let truth get in the way of a good story.
The papers and the TV media made much about the accident. However I noted in the same H-S paper that a TV star got hit by car and put in hospital. That dgot scant few lines on Page 19 of the Herald-Sun.
For those that say close the airport maybe they should look at the facts. Each week there are serious car abd truck accidents within a short distance from the airport. Death and serious injuries. They are lucky to get a note in the Police file.
Then there are the weekly car accidents that have a car coming off the roadway and end up in the lounge room or bedroom of. some home. This used to be rare but is now weekly.
For those that complain about the airport and rare aircraft accidents and want to close the airport perhaps they should consider banning car driving and turn roadways in farm land.
That would stop car accidents as well.

Superfly Slick Dick 24th Jun 2021 02:22

I’m a bit disappointed that we haven’t heard about the welfare of the pilot. Pretty damn poor. Has anyone hear heard anything?

Stikman 24th Jun 2021 08:56


Originally Posted by Superfly Slick Dick (Post 11067236)
I’m a bit disappointed that we haven’t heard about the welfare of the pilot. Pretty damn poor. Has anyone hear heard anything?

Cuts and bruises, I heard today.

Superfly Slick Dick 24th Jun 2021 11:04


Originally Posted by Stikman (Post 11067381)
Cuts and bruises, I heard today.

If its just a few cuts and bruises, that’s great and relieving news.

It’s disappointing that a ‘fiery plane crash’ (not) makes the news because its exciting, yet the positive outcome doesn’t get relayed (because that’s boring news).

In social media, I read the report of a stupid woman claiming it to be the fault of 5G, because the radar on the plane wasn’t updated to work with 5G.
A major news network said that the Flight Data Recorder (of a Piper Cherokee) would be analysed..

God, if you’re listening can you step in?

nonsense 24th Jun 2021 13:28


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11066586)
Cherokee 6 (PA32-300) has the 5 position selector, one for each tank and off. The Lance (PA32R-300) has two interconnected tanks on each side with a 3 position selector, left/right/off.

Strictly third hand rumour, but I was speaking to a friend of a friend today, a non-flyer who it turns out knows the pilot quite well and has spoken to him since the crash.
He described the problem as fuel selection error.

aroa 25th Jun 2021 22:50

SSD... Can you ask God to step ON those that make such idiotic comments.
Such ignorant statements are verbal “Darwin Awards” and need to be dealt with...pronto.


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