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dysslexicgod 27th May 2021 23:55

Flying in Victoria during lockdown?
 
Assuming all other Victorian lockdown requirements are met, would a two hour private flight departing and arriving at the same airstrip be considered legitimate exercise or education?

tail wheel 28th May 2021 01:02

Have you asked the Victorian Health Department or whoever regulates travel during a lockdown?

Air Services Australia may also know the official position on such flights?

I suspect a departure and arrival at the same airport, with no intermediate stops, would be acceptable, but accepting the many varied PPRuNe opinions as official Government policy may leave you with a serious problem you probably don't need.

UnderneathTheRadar 28th May 2021 01:17

Surely you've answered your own question? A PRIVATE flight couldn't be considered one of the 5 reasons to leave home under even the most optimistic interpretation? By the same logic I could jump into my car, drive a lap of Victoria and back home again - think a policeman is going to buy that one?

compressor stall 28th May 2021 01:51

Are you remaining within 5km of your home and below FL164?

Squawk7700 28th May 2021 01:57


Originally Posted by dysslexicgod (Post 11052699)
Assuming all other Victorian lockdown requirements are met, would a two hour private flight departing and arriving at the same airstrip be considered legitimate exercise or education?

Not for exercise or education, but certainly if it was a test flight after fitting a new engine or performing works as part of your employment as some kind of aircraft mechanic or similar, assuming you are following Covid-safe work practices.

Is a professional YouTuber able to fly privately for 2 hours and even land somewhere…? that’s something I’d be interested to hear if it was legit, just for interests sake really.

cattletruck 28th May 2021 11:09

Private flight in Victoria: Just fer-get-it (at least for 6 more days).

Hopefully we'll be out of this soon, after which you may wish to consider moving to another state, or country where the drinking water fluoridation levels are much lower.

flightleader 28th May 2021 12:10

If the airfield with 5km from your home to start with?

Squawk7700 28th May 2021 12:12


Originally Posted by flightleader (Post 11052992)
If the airfield with 5km from your home to start with?

If you can prove that you are flying for employment, education, exercise, food or a vaccination then go for it!


Checkboard 28th May 2021 20:20

Keeping current IS education, isn't it?

lucille 28th May 2021 20:40


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 11052994)
If you can prove that you are flying for employment, education, exercise, food or a vaccination then go for it!

Flying for food. Pretty much what some in the profession have been forced to do of late.

Lookleft 29th May 2021 00:06


If you can prove that you are flying for employment, education, exercise, food or a vaccination then go for it!
And if the coppers meet you on arrival back at your departure point just have a screen print of this thread and I am sure they will apologise for the inconvenience and drive away.

Ixixly 29th May 2021 07:48


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 11053303)
And if the coppers meet you on arrival back at your departure point just have a screen print of this thread and I am sure they will apologise for the inconvenience and drive away.

That and a copy of your rights as a "Sovereign Citizen" should have you totally covered!

Squawk7700 29th May 2021 09:17


Originally Posted by Ixixly (Post 11053418)
That and a copy of your rights as a "Sovereign Citizen" should have you totally covered!

… or just refuse to answer their questions and drive off. Too easy! What could possibly go wrong?? If you haven’t committed a crime, you don’t even have to speak to them.

Ixixly 29th May 2021 09:36


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 11053456)
… or just refuse to answer their questions and drive off. Too easy! What could possibly go wrong?? If you haven’t committed a crime, you don’t even have to speak to them.

Ehhh this one is actually yes and no, there are a few other reasons they can ask you specific questions you have to answer, if in doubt check the below link, it's pretty good as a resource and generally speaking so long as you're cooperative they'll let you go quickly and without any hassles. They're not like that CASA mob :}
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find...king-to-police

Aussie Bob 29th May 2021 10:29

Blimey, you folk,

If I lived in Vicco (and thank goodness I don't) and I felt like going flying, I believe as a CPL I have every right. Every flight I ever do is related to my work as a pilot, period, end of story. If I am going to the airport I am going to work. I am self employed, here's my ASIC, here's my CPL, move on copper.

Good luck you blokes and blokettes :-)

Squawk7700 29th May 2021 10:34


Originally Posted by Ixixly (Post 11053469)
Ehhh this one is actually yes and no, there are a few other reasons they can ask you specific questions you have to answer, if in doubt check the below link, it's pretty good as a resource and generally speaking so long as you're cooperative they'll let you go quickly and without any hassles. They're not like that CASA mob :}
https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find...king-to-police




Giving your name and address

The police do not have the right to demand your name or address without a reason. Generally, a police officer can only ask you to give your name and address if they believe you:
  • have committed an offence
  • are about to commit an offence.

This reminds me of earlier today when I watched the old news articles about Ben Buckley. He was talking about the CASA regs that said they can take away your licence if they "think" that you are going to break the rules!




SBrommers 1st Jun 2021 06:45

If departing a private strip I would just do it. Essential safety checks to stay current blah blah

Lookleft 1st Jun 2021 23:36

To all those brave Sir Robins who would just tell the fuzz to f off and its my right as a pilot to go wherever I want whenever I want it looks like you might get another 7 days to turn your brave rhetoric into action. Let us know how you get on.

Lookleft 26th Jun 2021 07:03

Well someone gave it a go and it looks like Coppers 1, Sovereign Citizens 0

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...pedy/100246682

SBrommers 27th Jun 2021 06:01

Hardly a local flight
 
To fly from Sydney to Coober and back via other states is not what the original poster asked.


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