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Desert Flower 27th Jan 2021 05:27

Nosedive at Parafield Airport this morning
 
Beech B55 Baron VH-ALR took a nosedive at Parafield in the early hours of this morning when the nosewheel jammed. Aircraft was returning from the Riverland - Rennmark thence Waikerie. Pilot & passenger ok.

DF.

Pinky the pilot 27th Jan 2021 08:17

TV News services showed the landing. Channel 7 featured comments from 'Aviation Expert' Geoffrey Thomas.:rolleyes:

The ABC showed more sense.

Had to be restrained from throwing heavy objects at the TV screen.

Desert Flower 27th Jan 2021 08:49


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot (Post 10977028)
TV News services showed the landing. Channel 7 featured comments from 'Aviation Expert' Geoffrey Thomas.:rolleyes:

The ABC showed more sense.

Had to be restrained from throwing heavy objects at the TV screen.

I missed seeing it on the ABC, Can't imagine what useful input GT could have had! I watched the playback on FightAware & the poor fella done about 18-20 circuits before he committed himself to the landing.

I know what you mean about wanting to throw things at the TV screen!

DF.

Capt Fathom 27th Jan 2021 09:18


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 10977060)
the poor fella done about 18-20 circuits before he committed himself to the landing.

18 circuits! Was that before or after the nose gear failed?

Ex FSO GRIFFO 27th Jan 2021 09:29

Steady On Pinky.......
'Cup o' Tea, Bex, and a good.......

Cheeeerrrrssssss........


rcoight 27th Jan 2021 10:58

I was listening to it unfold on LiveATC as it happened.

Good job all round by the pilot, controller, and everyone else involved.

Ixixly 27th Jan 2021 13:38


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 10977060)
I missed seeing it on the ABC, Can't imagine what useful input GT could have had! I watched the playback on FightAware & the poor fella done about 18-20 circuits before he committed himself to the landing.

I know what you mean about wanting to throw things at the TV screen!

DF.

Maybe the Pilot figured it was on the house and make the most out of it for the logbook? :E

Cat3508 28th Jan 2021 00:24

Part of Channel Nines description. "Upon crashing into the tarmac, the pilot initiated a final approach and landed on two wheels." Now we know exactly what happened !

IFEZ 28th Jan 2021 05:20

Channel Nine report also said ...'with the aircraft sustaining minor damage.' Hahahaha really..? Nose wheel collapses, 2 x props gone, 2 x IO-470's need a rebuild, etc etc. Anyone want to throw a $ figure at the repair bill..? Substantial I'd guess..!

Duck Pilot 28th Jan 2021 05:46

Unfortunately probably more than what the airframe is worth these days if it hasn’t got the latest avionics in it. A decision for the insurance company I guess. If they write it off, it could be a good buy for anyone who has a bit of cash to splash and wanted to put a pair of new IO 550s and 3 bladed props on it. Good little touring machine that can get along fast with plenty of range.

Eclan 28th Jan 2021 08:14


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 10977060)
I know what you mean about wanting to throw things at the TV screen!

Yep, that's how I felt when I read "nosedive" and the bit about "the nosewheel jammed". :ugh:
People without a clue should never be allowed to comment?
All it was missing was a reference to them "plummeting."
:D

Pinky the pilot 28th Jan 2021 08:22


All it was missing was a reference to them "plummeting."
Must admit that the lack of the use of that phrase surprised me. A bit like when TV newsreaders describe a car crash. The Car has always 'slammed into' whatever it has collided with.:rolleyes:


Steady On Pinky.......
'Cup o' Tea, Bex, and a good.......
Bugger the tea and the Bex.:mad: I'll just pour another Barossa Red!:ok:


landed on two wheels."
The Advertiser Newspaper mentioned the 'rear wheels.:rolleyes:

Desert Flower 28th Jan 2021 12:33


Originally Posted by Eclan (Post 10977820)
Yep, that's how I felt when I read "nosedive" and the bit about "the nosewheel jammed". :ugh:
People without a clue should never be allowed to comment?
All it was missing was a reference to them "plummeting."
:D

Oh my - you're one of the politically correct brigades by the look of it! As someone said to Pinky the Pilot earlier - 'Cup o' Tea, Bex, and a good......

DF.

machtuk 28th Jan 2021 21:59

At least all the dopey media outlets are entertaining with their kindergarten journalism!😂
Its often the only reason to visit some of these threads, for a laugh!

ACMS 29th Jan 2021 06:46

This should once again remind us why we can’t believe 90% of what they tell us in the news..........

jmmoric 29th Jan 2021 07:17


Originally Posted by IFEZ (Post 10977728)
Channel Nine report also said ...'with the aircraft sustaining minor damage.' Hahahaha really..? Nose wheel collapses, 2 x props gone, 2 x IO-470's need a rebuild, etc etc. Anyone want to throw a $ figure at the repair bill..? Substantial I'd guess..!

I know what it cost to forget the hand towbar on a Piper 28, or having a prop striking a stone when landing in terrain and not ensuring enough air in the nose oleo.....

It was expensive as hell in both cases, in the first one we cracked the crank shaft casing and had to decide between repair and a brand new engine (the old was the original), we did go with the old in the end because old engines are usually good when they've run 25+ years without problems (mechanic said). Second case we were a bit more lucky, no problems with the engine. Both cases cost us the propeller though.

Eclan 29th Jan 2021 13:17


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 10978050)
Oh my - you're one of the politically correct brigades by the look of it! As someone said to Pinky the Pilot earlier - 'Cup o' Tea, Bex, and a good......

Not at all, you're confusing me with someone else. More like aviationally-correct, or at least having an aversion to such as "nosedive." But "the nosewheel jammed"? Really? Please!

​​​​​​​I'll take the good...... glass of red, though. What'll it be, Pinky?

Bend alot 29th Jan 2021 23:30


Originally Posted by IFEZ (Post 10977728)
Channel Nine report also said ...'with the aircraft sustaining minor damage.' Hahahaha really..? Nose wheel collapses, 2 x props gone, 2 x IO-470's need a rebuild, etc etc. Anyone want to throw a $ figure at the repair bill..? Substantial I'd guess..!

It would be around $100,000 - engines, props and sheet metal.

Broken gear bit extra and not covered by insurance.

Desert Flower 30th Jan 2021 02:53


Originally Posted by Eclan (Post 10978834)
Not at all, you're confusing me with someone else. More like aviationally-correct, or at least having an aversion to such as "nosedive." But "the nosewheel jammed"? Really? Please!

I'll take the good...... glass of red, though. What'll it be, Pinky?

Eclan, if you think when I post about an incident in the future that I am going to change the wording so it doesn't offend your sensibilities, then you are sadly mistaken.

And while we're discussing the correct wording of things, perhaps you could take note that there is no such word as aviationally.

DF.

Eclan 30th Jan 2021 04:50


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 10979288)
Eclan, if you think when I post about an incident in the future that I am going to change the wording so it doesn't offend your sensibilities, then you are sadly mistaken.

And while we're discussing the correct wording of things, perhaps you could take note that there is no such word as aviationally.

Don't be silly, Mr. Flower, I never thought for a moment you would attempt to use professional and correct terminology in future if it's beyond your knowledge level to do so. Would you consider avoiding complaints about the ice-cream licker standard of journalism, though, if you're going to use ice-cream licker language in your posts?

I realise "aviationally" is not a word because I made it up on the spot just for you however it appears to have exceeded your capacity for irony so I won't do it again! :)


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