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UnderneathTheRadar 4th Aug 2020 08:08


Originally Posted by onehitwonder (Post 10852683)
Coppers are being tipped from air services about VFR and flight plans having been pulled up in the initial lockdown crossing a border

I flew into Parkes from Melbourne yesterday (with a valid permit) - was met at the airport by the local rozzers with a screenshot of FR24 they'd been sent from Brisbane....


machtuk 4th Aug 2020 08:28

We now make China look like a bunch of school bullies, the tyranny is unbelievable!

De_flieger 4th Aug 2020 08:46


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 10852805)
We now make China look like a bunch of school bullies, the tyranny is unbelievable!

😂 good grief! Hyperbole much? The simple fact that you're allowed to make posts like that criticising the government alone disproves your claim.

KRviator 4th Aug 2020 09:07

But for how much longer will machtuk be allowed to post criticising the Government?

If you'd come on here 6 months ago, or even 3 months ago and "Everyone living <here, ^Here and there> will need a letter, signed by their employer and satisfactory to the State of Victoria, to allow you to travel beyond the limits of your front door to your place of employment. Said letter must be produced on demand to an armed police officer, whose sole reason for interrogating you today is to determine whether you have authority to be outside your home".

You'd have been laughed off the forums, but here we are.....

Sunfish 4th Aug 2020 10:35

Achtung! Your papers!

However this is the public health Act, from memory it was always acknowledged as draconian.

vne165 4th Aug 2020 10:41

I suspect this is not going to end well. There are enough useful idiots in Vic to defy even the toughest lock down, just as sport.
Make sure the preservation and maintenance is up to date on airframes and power plants, may be a while before they see any action sadly.

junior.VH-LFA 4th Aug 2020 11:39


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10852751)
I wonder what the legalities of VicPol landing at Corowa (NSW) to refuel are... ho, hum, hmmm, nothing to see here, move on :-)

it’s perfectly legal, they have NSW border passes; just like the ADF and other essential services do.


nonsense 4th Aug 2020 12:09


Originally Posted by Stickshift3000 (Post 10852600)
This recent paper from Israel suggests that the duration of covid positivity/infectivity in those that have it ranged from 4 - 45 days (median of 3 weeks)

The relevant question is the maximum period from exposure before a case will test positive. Current thinking appears to be 11 days, based on testing at 11 days and release from quarantine at 14 days if the result is negative.

Squawk7700 4th Aug 2020 12:44


Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA (Post 10852952)
it’s perfectly legal, they have NSW border passes; just like the ADF and other essential services do.

If you understood Police powers you would know that is not correct. You can not compare them to what you recall from your time in the military. For starters, one is a state based organisation (corporation).



SCPL_1988 4th Aug 2020 19:44

Can anyone enlighten me on what pilots are exempt from Victoria's new rules
and or how other states treat pilots differently?
I needed to go to Melb for a few days and
it turns out my other option was Auckland where
things appear to be functioning far better.

Sunfish 4th Aug 2020 22:05

Squawk,I recall being told years ago that State police forces deputised their interstate colleagues somehow. The old idea of smoky and the bandit style chases to the State line doesn’t work - Victorian police will chase you right across the border into NSW and vice versa was what I was told.

Stickshift3000 4th Aug 2020 22:10


Originally Posted by SCPL_1988 (Post 10853233)
Can anyone enlighten me on what pilots are exempt from Victoria's new rules
and or how other states treat pilots differently?
I needed to go to Melb for a few days and
it turns out my other option was Auckland where
things appear to be functioning far better.

Victoria's rules haven't changed for any international air crew arriving into Australia.

You can find the info at this link, under the heading 'Airline, medevac and air ambulance crew':

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/informat...sease-covid-19

Lookleft 5th Aug 2020 00:05


I wonder what the legalities of VicPol landing at Corowa (NSW) to refuel are... ho, hum, hmmm, nothing to see here, move on :-)
It would be the same as airliners flying from Melbourne to Sydney and having to refuel there. It is an essential service and they needed to refuel, no conspiracy there.

ACMS 5th Aug 2020 03:09

So I’m going out of currency and cannot fly but VH-ABR the Ansett DC-3 is out now flying around Melb???? It’s not being used commercially for pax or cargo, so how are they allowed to fly to keep current but I can’t....

Con Catenator 5th Aug 2020 03:52

VH ABR - Stage 3 until midnight ??

ACMS 5th Aug 2020 04:58


Originally Posted by Con Catenator (Post 10853458)
VH ABR - Stage 3 until midnight ??

The curfew for all of us to remain within 5 kms came in Sunday night. So I cannot leave my home unless 4 reasons and I must stay within 5 kms of my home. I still don’t see how a jolly around the bay qualifies as a reason to leave the 5 kms area or indeed leave home at all.

I could have taken the mickey and made the excuse as well but i didn’t, I did the right thing......why can’t they?

Squawk7700 5th Aug 2020 07:18

My very reliable sources tell me that Sydney and suburbs are very close to a fairly heavy lockdown.

Get done what you need to now if you live in that area!

machtuk 5th Aug 2020 08:16


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10853482)
The curfew for all of us to remain within 5 kms came in Sunday night. So I cannot leave my home unless 4 reasons and I must stay within 5 kms of my home. I still don’t see how a jolly around the bay qualifies as a reason to leave the 5 kms area or indeed leave home at all.

I could have taken the mickey and made the excuse as well but i didn’t, I did the right thing......why can’t they?


stage 4 you are stuffed in every sense of the word, stage 3 fill your boots regarding flying -)

Nomde plume 5th Aug 2020 08:17


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10853482)
The curfew for all of us to remain within 5 kms came in Sunday night. So I cannot leave my home unless 4 reasons and I must stay within 5 kms of my home. I still don’t see how a jolly around the bay qualifies as a reason to leave the 5 kms area or indeed leave home at all.

I could have taken the mickey and made the excuse as well but i didn’t, I did the right thing......why can’t they?

5km for shopping and exercise. Don’t think there’s a distance limit to travel for work or give/receive care.

Squawk7700 5th Aug 2020 08:56


Originally Posted by Nomde plume (Post 10853586)
5km for shopping and exercise. Don’t think there’s a distance limit to travel for work or give/receive care.

Correct.

You are also permitted to travel any distance to meet your Tinder date (aka intimate partner).


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