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ACMS 2nd Aug 2020 07:15

Stage 4 lockdown Melbourne....
 
Well that’s possibly the final nail in the GA coffin for a lot of companies in Victoria.....

Squawk7700 2nd Aug 2020 07:46


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10851347)
Well that’s possibly the final nail in the GA coffin for a lot of companies in Victoria.....

The affected industries are yet to be announced. Tomorrow is the announcement.

machtuk 2nd Aug 2020 08:14

It was only a matter of time before communist Dan finished off what was left of Victoria, the skies will be the emptiest they have ever been!

ozbiggles 2nd Aug 2020 08:32

It would seem the sky is full of Covid in Victoria.

Squawk7700 2nd Aug 2020 09:46


Originally Posted by ozbiggles (Post 10851387)
It would seem the sky is full of Covid in Victoria.

Residents that live in government housing usually don’t fly aircraft.

Boeingpilot738 2nd Aug 2020 10:15


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 10851377)
It was only a matter of time before communist Dan finished off what was left of Victoria, the skies will be the emptiest they have ever been!

He’s a tool to be sure but did you see the pictures of St Kilda Beach today? People just aren’t getting it.

zanthrus 2nd Aug 2020 10:29

It’s f’ing winter in Melbourne. What idiot wants to go to the beach?

machtuk 2nd Aug 2020 10:44


Originally Posted by Boeingpilot738 (Post 10851448)
He’s a tool to be sure but did you see the pictures of St Kilda Beach today? People just aren’t getting it.

Oh plenty of people abuse the rules BUT let's say after communist Dan destroys Vict's economy completly and we end up with very few transmissions then what? The Virus won't pack up its bag and disappear it's with us forever until a vaccine is readily available!
Who would have ever thought we would be under such repressive draconian laws to fix something that we cannot stop!

thisishardtochoose 2nd Aug 2020 11:14


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 10851468)
Oh plenty of people abuse the rules BUT let's say after communist Dan destroys Vict's economy completly and we end up with very few transmissions then what? The Virus won't pack up its bag and disappear it's with us forever until a vaccine is readily available!
Who would have ever thought we would be under such repressive draconian laws to fix something that we cannot stop!

Whats your suggestion then mate? Open everything back up and let the virus rip through the population resulting in our health system failing?

dr dre 2nd Aug 2020 12:46


Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose (Post 10851489)
Whats your suggestion then mate? Open everything back up and let the virus rip through the population resulting in our health system failing?

Very well said. Do some commentating here realise we’re in the midst of a pandemic?

Yeah it sucks but if you want to ensure we have a population able to fly in GA in 2021 then better stop the problem now.

Save me all the “but my flying won’t make a difference” talk. It’s about stopping community spread and transmission by limiting non essential activity and movement. Your leisure flying is not essential. This is coming from Health officials not people intent on destroying GA. Your recreational flying can wait a few months til it’s sorted.

Unless you want to end up like the US, they’re still flying quite a lot there, wonder why the virus is ravaging that nation?

If any of you do decide that “communist Dan” or the “Nanny State” isn’t going to stop your “exercising your endowed right to fly”, then I look forward to watching you pilloried by society when video of your arrest is aired on the news....

gassed budgie 3rd Aug 2020 03:05


Originally Posted by zanthrus (Post 10851463)
It’s f’ing winter in Melbourne. What idiot wants to go to the beach?

....and the beach is redolent in two things that virus hate. UV sunlight/radiation and salt. Reckon the beach is a good place to be. And Dan is still a fcukwit.

peterc005 3rd Aug 2020 04:16


Originally Posted by gassed budgie (Post 10852003)
....and the beach is redolent in two things that virus hate. UV sunlight/radiation and salt. Reckon the beach is a good place to be. And Dan is still a fcukwit.

I like Daniel Andrews and think he's doing a great job in very difficult circumstances.

Squawk7700 3rd Aug 2020 04:37


Originally Posted by peterc005 (Post 10852036)
I like Daniel Andrews and think he's doing a great job in very difficult circumstances.

That’s because you are clearly a Labour supporter and can’t see past the end of your own nose.

It was his incompetence that led to the carriage of the virus from the hotel quarantine by using low cost security companies with guards found on Whatsapp groups when the PSO’s (who pretty much aren’t even needed at the moment), could have continued to do it.

I am surprised he is even still employed.

If you can enlighten us all as to what he has done that could be considered as a “great job” we are all ears....?

junior.VH-LFA 3rd Aug 2020 05:09

I'm not an ALP supporter or voter but I'm getting tired of the Dictator Dan bull****. He has been following advice from scientists and doctors (you know, actual experts), in conjunction with the federal government throughout this. It's not a one man band, as determined as some of you are to make it so.

You can not and won't make things better by trying to pin Victoria's situation on one man. The security contractors as individuals have the bulk of responsibility for the initial outbreak; If you're being paid to do a job, you do it. I'd like to see a pilot take the blame for someone else's **** up in the aviation world, none of you would own up to it either. Likewise the now countless Victorians (many of whom have been ABSENT from their homes after testing positive for COVID) have their share of the blame for further community transmission. Do you think the Premier was on the ground picking out who to hire? Checking people's resume's? Is that a job you'd normally expect from a premier or do you support micromanagement to that level?

I have no doubt there are things that could have been done better, but while Victoria has been absolutely taking the piss out of stage 3 restrictions and attempts to minimise the outbreak without a full lockdown, the citizens of Victoria sadly only have themselves to blame.

Victoria as a state needs to come together, rip the bandaid off over the next 6 weeks and get through this as a team. With compliance there will be results and we can all get back to the way things were sooner rather than later.

As for the virus itself, I think some of you desperately need to do some reading on what COVID is and it's long term health implications. Heart issues, affected lung functionality, severe fatigue. Good luck passing your Class 1 medical if you get it; and that's for a young person.

neville_nobody 3rd Aug 2020 05:15


I like Daniel Andrews and think he's doing a great job in very difficult circumstances.
Entirely of his own making. Not only has he ruined the Victorian economy, he has affected the National one as well and is now looking toward the Federal Government for yet more money. When all he needed to do was take the Military when first offered and enforced the quarantine properly the first time and not try and be a hero. He will need to resign before the next election.

Stickshift3000 3rd Aug 2020 05:16


Originally Posted by junior.VH-LFA (Post 10852052)
I'm not an ALP supporter or voter but I'm getting tired of the Dictator Dan bull****. He has been following advice from scientists and doctors (you know, actual experts), in conjunction with the federal government throughout this. It's not a one man band, as determined as some of you are to make it so.

....the citizens of Victoria sadly only have themselves to blame.

I agree entirely.

For the record, I don’t cheer for either side of politics.

Stickshift3000 3rd Aug 2020 05:19


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 10852054)
When all he needed to do was take the Military when first offered and enforced the quarantine properly the first time. He will need to resign before the next election.

Use of the military was initially offered only to drive overseas arrivals to the hotels in buses, nothing more. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story though...

Other states are also using private security firms in hotel quarantine.



havick 3rd Aug 2020 05:19


Originally Posted by thisishardtochoose (Post 10851489)
Whats your suggestion then mate? Open everything back up and let the virus rip through the population resulting in our health system failing?

Seems to be working here in the USA.

Squawk7700 3rd Aug 2020 05:30


You can not and won't make things better by trying to pin Victoria's situation on one man. The security contractors as individuals have the bulk of responsibility for the initial outbreak; If you're being paid to do a job, you do it. I'd like to see a pilot take the blame for someone else's **** up in the aviation world, none of you would own up to it either. Likewise the now countless Victorians (many of whom have been ABSENT from their homes after testing positive for COVID) have their share of the blame for further community transmission. Do you think the Premier was on the ground picking out who to hire? Checking people's resume's? Is that a job you'd normally expect from a premier or do you support micromanagement to that level?
The buck stops with him on the call he made to use low cost unionised contracting companies.

Do you think that if armed police or PSO’s were guarding the returned travellers, that they would be having sex with the returned travellers and taking them complete with their Covid infections to McDonalds?

Billions of dollars of the country’s economy have been wiped out because some 19 year old teenagers with a 2 day security ticket from the back of a weeties packet were entrusted to perform a critical responsibility that had the potential to affect millions of people’s health.





neville_nobody 3rd Aug 2020 05:43


Use of the military was initially offered only to drive overseas arrivals to the hotels in buses, nothing more. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story though..
No it wasn't. Federal Government recommended quarantine done by the Police and Military. It was reported and discussed widely at the time that was on offer.

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/daniel-a...id-19/12413604


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