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AmarokGTI 3rd Jul 2020 09:10

Is anyone familiar with the aircraft type able to give insight into what the warning / caution noises heard toward the end of the recording were? I’m not familiar with any of the Cessna 208 warning sounds.

73qanda 3rd Jul 2020 09:16

Well done to everyone involved. The professionalism of everyone involved makes me want to get back in the air again.

machtuk 3rd Jul 2020 09:36


Originally Posted by halas (Post 10827902)
@machtuk "40 years diving planes"? 🤣

@compressor stall I was working NSW Air Ambulance when this happened. Still friends with he nurse in the event. Your recollection is correct.

halas

yep driving planes -) still doing it actually but under my terms -)

Capt Fathom 3rd Jul 2020 10:54

I think the emphasis was on ‘diving’ aeroplanes!

RatsoreA 3rd Jul 2020 12:36


Originally Posted by AmarokGTI (Post 10827934)
Is anyone familiar with the aircraft type able to give insight into what the warning / caution noises heard toward the end of the recording were? I’m not familiar with any of the Cessna 208 warning sounds.

The G1000 equipped versions have an alarm for fuel tanks selected to off, fire, and low fuel plus some other annunciations from the display.

By that time, I’m guessing it was the low fuel which start chiming at below 200 pounds per tank.


pineteam 3rd Jul 2020 13:19

Oxygen issue at FL110? Anyone knows if that was really the issue? I would be surprised as In Zambia it was common practice to cruise up to FL130 with no oxygen for the sake to fly above the haze layer during my time there. Never heard of any issue.

Blueskymine 3rd Jul 2020 13:37

Four hours is a long time at 11k if you’re not on oxygen. Especially at night.

I remember 10k in a chieftain for 90 mins was a struggle in the day to stay awake.

pineteam 3rd Jul 2020 13:47

4 hours! Wow! I missed that bit! I guess you’re right. Happy it ended well. = )

TriJetFlying 3rd Jul 2020 14:31


Originally Posted by Blueskymine (Post 10828130)
Four hours is a long time at 11k if you’re not on oxygen. Especially at night.

I remember 10k in a chieftain for 90 mins was a struggle in the day to stay awake.

oh please...

VariablePitchP 3rd Jul 2020 15:23


Originally Posted by Blueskymine (Post 10828130)
Four hours is a long time at 11k if you’re not on oxygen. Especially at night.

I remember 10k in a chieftain for 90 mins was a struggle in the day to stay awake.

I’ve spent half my life at 8,000 it feels like, can’t imagine the extra 2,000 taking me from totally fine to unconscious.

The Banjo 3rd Jul 2020 19:53

Actially it was a long haul airline pilot who fainted when he realised there was no crewrest at top of climb.

Checklist Charlie 3rd Jul 2020 23:37

VariablePitchP muses


I’ve spent half my life at 8,000 it feels like, can’t imagine the extra 2,000 taking me from totally fine to unconscious.
Then you had better believe it. We were always on O2 above 5000 at night.

CC

chimbu warrior 4th Jul 2020 00:25

Hypoxia affects different people in different ways, and is dependent on age, physical condition, smoker/non-smoker, fatigue and a multitude of other factors.

I have no idea what caused this event, but don't assume that just because you read that a time of useful conciousness at X altitude is Y minutes that you won't suffer the effects until higher or later.

spektrum 4th Jul 2020 00:46

By the sounds of it some of you are so unfit/unhealthy I question if you should be flying or not.

udaman 4th Jul 2020 03:51

That controller did a great job, going to drink some Claws and light some fireworks in his name tomorrow 👍🏻👍🏻

Checklist Charlie 4th Jul 2020 05:47

spektrum, I trust you are not questioning my ability, fitness or health. I followed my employers instructions regarding the use of O2 above 5000 at night as did my colleagues.

Perhaps as it appears as though you do not understand some aspects of the human body that you should avail yourself of a visit to a facility with a Hypobaric Chamber and undertake their course.

I believe you will not only be surprised by the experience but you may also be enlightened.

CC

jonkster 4th Jul 2020 07:30

I always understood night vision starts to be impaired above 5000' without supplemental oxygen.

arketip 4th Jul 2020 09:03


Originally Posted by Checklist Charlie (Post 10828577)
I trust you are not questioning my ability, fitness or health. I followed my employers instructions regarding the use of O2 above 5000 at night as did my colleagues.

Perhaps as it appears as though you do not understand some aspects of the human body that you should avail yourself of a visit to a facility with a Hypobaric Chamber and undertake their course.

I believe you will not only be surprised by the experience but you may also be enlightened.

CC

How do airline pilots survive?

ACMS 4th Jul 2020 09:08

I did quite a few long flights at 10,000’ day and night in a light a/c and never had any issues.........

Above 5,000’ at night seems a bit excessive. You’d better not fly long haul in a typical wide body jet then.....

compressor stall 4th Jul 2020 09:55


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 10828670)
Above 5,000’ at night seems a bit excessive. You’d better not fly long haul in a typical wide body jet then.....

Agreed. FAR require cabin altitude of less than 8000' for transport cat aircraft. At we're sitting up that high for many many hours.

But, if your employer says wear gas when lower. why not.



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