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Desert Flower 12th Dec 2019 01:20

Light plane flips at Moorabbin airport, trapping pilot
 
The pilot of a light plane was trapped after the aircraft flipped at an airport in Melbourne's southeast.

Emergency services were called to Moorabbin Airport just before 10am to find the training aircraft on its roof.

The pilot, believed to be aged in his 20s, was trapped inside and crews established a foam hose line as a precaution while the MFB set him free.

https://images.7news.com.au/publicat...y=sevennews_v2

Emergency services were called to Moorabbin Airport just before 10am to find the training aircraft on its roof. Credit: 7NEWS The pilot was seen being loaded into an ambulance just before 10.30am.

He has been taken to The Alfred Hospital in a serious condition.

DF.

mcoates 12th Dec 2019 01:29

Reported on news media to be a Bristell from "Soar Aviation"

Squawk7700 12th Dec 2019 02:43

I heard someone was seen under the wreckage shortly after, trying to read the VDO to work out how much to charge the student for that flight.

MikeHatter732 12th Dec 2019 02:51

What a truly cooked operator that this company is.

Saw a fellow Soar Technam take off for Essendon as the Bristell lies upside down surrounded in emergency vehicles.

There is no time to suspend the operation, more money has to flow into old mate's wallet!

mcoates 12th Dec 2019 03:30

"I heard someone was seen under the wreckage shortly after, trying to read the VDO to work out how much to charge the student for that flight."

now thats funny !

UnderneathTheRadar 12th Dec 2019 03:49


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10637745)
I heard someone was seen under the wreckage shortly after, trying to read the VDO to work out how much to charge the student for that flight.

They'll add .3 for the taxi time saved.....

Clare Prop 12th Dec 2019 04:30

Hope the stude is OK.

Re the VDO, Remember who is paying for those flights, it's us mug taxpayers topping up Mr Young Rich List's millions through the VET system. We've paid for our flying... now we have to pay him for theirs.

0ttoL 12th Dec 2019 06:07

That looks to be taxiway Echo 2 just off runway 13L (to the right in the photo) about half way down the runway.
OR 17L is to the left of the photo, but much closer to the threshold

Squawk7700 12th Dec 2019 07:35


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 10637783)
Hope the stude is OK.

Re the VDO, Remember who is paying for those flights, it's us mug taxpayers topping up Mr Young Rich List's millions through the VET system. We've paid for our flying... now we have to pay him for theirs.

Itís a loan from the government that the student pays back once they earn $45,881 gross. It even includes interest, so in some ways, the government is actually profiting from the students, assuming that one day they actually more than $45,881.

I donít know anyone of my crowd that havenít paid back their loans.

Clare Prop 12th Dec 2019 07:59

I know how it works...plus there has been plenty of discussion about it on other threads here. It doesn't charge interest but is index linked. There has already been one AAT decision to refund these loans and I understand there are several more cases being considered. Those refunds aren't going to come from the school owner's pocket, are they?

Squawk7700 12th Dec 2019 08:14


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 10637872)
Those refunds aren't going to come from the school owner's pocket, are they?

Absolutely they will, or the associated education provider.

The Government wonít be handing out millions with no strings attached !

Stretch06 12th Dec 2019 08:50


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10637861)


Itís a loan from the government that the student pays back once they earn $45,881 gross. It even includes interest, so in some ways, the government is actually profiting from the students, assuming that one day they actually more than $45,881.

I donít know anyone of my crowd that havenít paid back their loans.

Slight thread drift.... but I know many ex students who still have it hanging over their heads and will do for many many years to come. Not to mention the ones that left the country and now don't pay it back at all (unless they return and pay Aussie Tax at some point in their future).

Squawk7700 12th Dec 2019 08:59


Originally Posted by Stretch06 (Post 10637900)
Slight thread drift.... but I know many ex students who still have it hanging over their heads and will do for many many years to come. Not to mention the ones that left the country and now don't pay it back at all (unless they return and pay Aussie Tax at some point in their future).

Was discussing this today with some colleagues. Certain countries (particularly Asian ones) donít allow dual citizenship so itís not all that common for them to leave the country and not come back. This is because you can only get the loan as a permanent resident.

As the student pilot put in that post on the other thread about this, many of the students were are older age guys with half-decent jobs, looking to change careers and many have families.... generally not the type to get up and run away.


umop apisdn 12th Dec 2019 11:44


Originally Posted by Stretch06 (Post 10637900)
Slight thread drift.... but I know many ex students who still have it hanging over their heads and will do for many many years to come. Not to mention the ones that left the country and now don't pay it back at all (unless they return and pay Aussie Tax at some point in their future).

International students can't get FEE HELP. It's now a rule that you must repay your loan no matter where you live.

The name is Porter 12th Dec 2019 12:12

So what is it now? Three Bristells in the last two years or so, all in Victoria.

I hope the young chap is ok.

Clare Prop 12th Dec 2019 13:04

There is a link to an article on the "rich list" thread that states that 98% of the students were relying on VET funding. From memory about 20 were going to the AAT about getting a refund.

LKinnon 12th Dec 2019 20:29

Are there any more details about the actual crash incident?

Deceiver 12th Dec 2019 20:46

Without going too much into the hearsay, I've heard that the pilot was not supposed to be flying this plane for a number of reasons. This could get VERY interesting for Soar.

Ixixly 12th Dec 2019 21:21

Yeah...can anyone comment on how this yellow tweety bird found itself in this predicament?

Also, love it when they say Emergency Services "Found" it on its roof, like they turned up for something unrelated, "Oh, bob, check that out, you think that thing is meant to be on it's roof over there? Guess we better go check on it?"

Egipps 12th Dec 2019 21:43

Click for the ATSB report

ďThe ATSB is investigating the collision with terrain involving a Bristell S-LSA aircraft, registered VH-YVF, at Moorabbin Airport, Victoria, which occurred at about 0950 on 12 December 2019.

During final approach for a touch and go landing, the aircraft is reported to have pitched up steeply and yawed resulting in collision with terrain. The pilot, the only person on board, was seriously injured. The aircraft was substantially damaged.

As part of the investigation, the ATSB will examine the accident site and the aircraft wreckage, interview air traffic control and other relevant personnel, and conduct data recovery.

A report will be released at the end of the investigation. Should a critical safety issue be identified during the course of the investigation, the ATSB will immediately notify relevant stakeholders so appropriate and timely safety action can be taken.Ē


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