One of many threads on this matter: https://www.pprune.org/australia-new...+drift+forever

At one level it's amusing but at another it's appalling to reflect on the number of lies - yes, deliberate falsehoods - that have been told about the regulatory reform program over the decades, as well as how much it has cost so far. (I'm happy to be sued in defamation by anyone who thinks he's been defamed by my statement. I suppose it's possible that someone could demonstrate insouciant incompetence rather than deliberateness in making demonstrably misleading statements. Happy to write them a cheque in return for the entertainment.)

In my opinion, the correct conclusion to the review is global: If the Australian Government can’t even get something as insignificant as aviation regulation right, then how can they be entrusted with getting anything else right?

That leads us inevitably to the American privatization model and the destruction of the Westminster style public service, of which CASA is a part. I don’t think anyone can argue that CASA performance has been anything other than a regulatory disaster.

I was involved in the commencement of the reform programme.

The primary direction from the Board at the time was to concentrate on removing unnecessary cost.

Can someone post the “Byron Directive” here?

1996 to 1998 I wrote many letters to CASA querying the definition and seeking a determination of 'scheduled services'. Leroy Keith, then CASA Director, told me around 1998 that CASA recognized the deficiencies of CAR206 and it would be "rectified in months".

Aviation Journalist Paul Phelan wrote in an Australian Aviation article dated around April or May 1999:
Over 20 years later the matter of appropriate, cost effective air services into remote and rural airports has still not been adequately addressed.

Dick.....

See A twenty-five year disgrace | Pro Aviation

And Sunny....They CAN'T, as they're proving on an ongoing basis. :ugh:

A couple more well articulated submissions:
https://www.aph.gov.au/sitecore/cont...on/Submissions

A few more submissions at the above link.

No doubt more to follow.

It's an interesting experience, testifying before a parliamentary committee. To anyone thinking of testifying, by all means do so. But first, carefully read the terms of reference, and address each in turn. Carefully read the guidelines. Do not use emotive language, just be factual. If called upon to testify, wear a nice suit, be highly respectful of the committee, don't get off the point, and keep the message simple and relevant. Prepare, prepare, and prepare; have facts to hand. If relevant, include factual comparisons with other counties. Cite your sources. Carefully check your submission for grammar, spelling, typos, presentation. Write a short summary of your points, and bring it with you. Give copies to the committee members. Thank them for the opportunity to testify.

I don't think an anonymous submission has as much impact as one that is signed.

Remember: you want to be taken seriously. The committee wants to hear from responsible citizens.

Interesting is hardly the word! Having spent two 3-hour sessions being grilled by a Senate committee, it is a gruelling experience. But as cooperplace says, facts and preparation are critical - also follow guidelines, there are traps for the unwary!

Totally agree, but in some ways it's like aviation: must be taken seriously and prior preparation pays off. I was grilled by a house committee, and afterwards most of the committee approached me individually and thanked me. I saw the person who testified before me shredded by the committee. I rank the whole experience as a positive learning experience. And it gave me insight into one MP in particular who struck me as being extremely capable and even more ambitious. I will watch him.

Coronavirus concerns will torpedo this review.

The Chairperson is now in hospital with the virus. I wouldn’t expect any hearings of the Committee any time soon.

Apparently the Parliament is still going to sit next week. Dopey.

Enough Lead Balloon
 

STOP THE BASHING

Errrm, precisely whom am I bashing?

Do you expect the Committee to have a hearing soon? If so, when?

Do you think it’s a good idea that all Federal parliamentarians get together in the same room next week? There’s more than a hundred of them. (Correction: I think they’ve agreed to ‘pair’ it down to 90. Still a risk.)

LB: ‘I know it’s too much to hope for, but could they meet with the senior management of CASA?

ENOUGH SUNFISH: STOP THE BASHING

Senoir management of CAsA wouldnt have the testicular fortitude to show up...especially now the word is out Carbody is doing a runner. And good riddance I say.

Unfortunately our present viral impasse has overtaken everything else ...so if GA was of no interest before it sure as hell aint now.

Just wish our Sen. McDonald a speedy recovery and ongoing good health for the trial ahead...its no easy game in Parliament or Party to stick yr head up and rattle a chain with an Inquiry... especially one relating to CAsA. and how its buggered an industry.
Makes all the Miniscules look negligent...as they have been.
Been able to shrug off many past inquiriies has CAsA, and with the useless CEOs, non functioning Boreds, and a corrupt management, we now have what we have. A national disgrace.

I just spent 20 minutes reading a bit of the CASA MOS about maintenance organisations.

My experience suggests that when maintenance and training schools close or go bankrupt due to Coronavirus, they will never reopen.

The reason is that while it was possible for a business that is a going concern to invest in the huge amount of documentation and extra staff to meet the CASA requirements for something like part 145, I don’t think a greenfield startup, say a couple of enterprising LAMES in a disused hangar, have a hope in hell of satisfying the administrative requirements, let alone having the funds to hire anyone who does, let alone pay for CASA evaluation.

When they go, they’re gone. They can’t be replaced. I speak as someone who ran a business during the last recession, for a while.