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LKinnon 19th Aug 2019 20:56

I've done a Google search for GA flying clubs in PNG but without any results.

Are there any flying clubs in PNG?

edsbar 19th Aug 2019 21:39

Heard of the Inpulse water injection mogas system but have never seen one! Doubt you would get Mogas of the required 91 Octane, ethanol free spec in PNG other than pre ordering drums, Certainly would not trust it from the pump!

PNG is a beautiful but very dangerous country, leave the 206 at home if you feel the need to take a look ... I am fairly sure politics prevent the Government from issuing the travel warnings it deserves.

beached az 19th Aug 2019 23:27


Originally Posted by LKinnon (Post 10549458)
I've done a Google search for GA flying clubs in PNG but without any results.

Are there any flying clubs in PNG?


Negative.

There used to be an "Aeroclub" in POM affectionately referred to as "The Swamp"
Last I heard it was trashed by the Raskol's and didn't reopen. My info is a bit out of date though.
Not much aviation ever went on there though, just alot of expat lapans drinking SP, yours truly included :)

There is no GA scene at all in PNG. The best way to fly there (only way) is to get a flying job.
The place is definitely not for the faint hearted for all of the reasons previously alluded to on this thread.
There has been some excellent advise offered here by some very experiences PNG pilots, ignore at your peril! :ugh:

Another possible way to fly yourself in PNG might be to contact MAF and have an instructor hold your hand in country.
They are the only organisation that does flight training in PNG, I think based in Mt Hagan?
Or do a ride along with one of their drivers, that would be an amazing experience as they get to the really remote parts that the RPT boys can't get into.
Might be worth an email.

Don't do it yourself, leave your Balus in Oz
BAz :ok:

tail wheel 19th Aug 2019 23:46

BAz

Are you suggesting the Temple of Aeros (POM Aero Club) is no more? :{

After the millions of dollars and Kina I and my many aviation/airline colleagues and friends invested over many, many years, the Temple is klos Pinis?

RIP.

beached az 20th Aug 2019 00:14


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 10549548)
BAz

Are you suggesting the Temple of Aeros (POM Aero Club) is no more? :{

After the millions of dollars and Kina I and my many aviation/airline colleagues and friends invested over many, many years, the Temple is klos Pinis?

RIP.

I harim pinis :{

Duck Pilot 20th Aug 2019 01:18

Wheelie,
Dero was forced to closed down due the above mentioned reasons about 4 years ago. Most of the long time campaigners initially moved to the Weigh Inn, however I have heard that they have since migrated to the Car Club in Waigani. Never been to the Car Club myself, however I’m itching at the bit to get in there when circumstances allow me to do so.......

LKinnon 20th Aug 2019 02:43

Thought I'd heard of operators doing GA charter flights between Australia and PNG, so I expected a well worn path and infrastructure for such flights, Guess it's not so simple.

ARPs 20th Aug 2019 02:46

Infrastructure and PNG are two things that don’t go together.

LeadSled 20th Aug 2019 03:18


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 10549548)
BAz

Are you suggesting the Temple of Aeros (POM Aero Club) is no more? :{

After the millions of dollars and Kina I and my many aviation/airline colleagues and friends invested over many, many years, the Temple is klos Pinis?

RIP.

Folks,
How very sad, one of the well remembered events of said den of iniquity was the night I first met Torres over a few quiet greenies ( or were they brownies).
Seriously, the promise of PNG unfulfilled is a testament to the damage Australian left wing (now called) virtue signalling can "achieve" , despite the predictions made by those who actually knew the place.
That it is not a lost worse, that it has not devolved into a military supported dictatorship, like so much of Africa, is also due to the foresight of those who actually understood the place, to the extent that understanding was possible.
Tootle pip!!

troppo 20th Aug 2019 07:16


Originally Posted by ARPs (Post 10549588)
Infrastructure and PNG are two things that don’t go together.

well they actually go together very well indeed if you are a politician...:}

LKinnon 20th Aug 2019 10:32

I thought CASA and Air Services controlled aviation in PNG so it should be pretty good?

troppo 20th Aug 2019 10:44


Originally Posted by LKinnon (Post 10549760)
I thought CASA and Air Services controlled aviation in PNG so it should be pretty good?

hell yeah it is. tip some mogas in your 206 and head for png. leading edge things they got going on there. 🤣

Office Update 20th Aug 2019 11:46

I'm just a little curious with all the good advice being offered that LKinnon is continuing with the post.

If I may ask the person what experience does he/she have, and are you IFR or VFR rated ?

It sounds to me that there are issues to be addressed in your quest to prove a point. Assuming you have addressed the matters of: Aircraft Insurance, HF radio frequencies, Fuel provisioning, Maps and Charts and I can confirm that all the Oz-Runways stuff is out of date. Performance charts for the C206 in tropical weather, are you familiar with % power available at runway elevations over 5,000'? Customs and Immigration, have you secured your Visa's as yet? Aircraft security and personal security issues, and the awesome responsibility of looking after any passengers. New GPS data base to encompass new procedures starting in a few weeks for IFR arrivals and departures. Do you have VFR terminal charts? again the Oz-Runways stuff is ever so out of date.

I sincerely hope we don't end up reading about you in the last and final post!


gulliBell 20th Aug 2019 14:21


Originally Posted by LKinnon (Post 10549458)
..Are there any flying clubs in PNG?

As you know, this question has been answered. But let me reinforce that answer in another way. There is a yacht club in Goroka (eastern highlands), but there are no yachts there, nor even a lake upon which to sail even if there was a yacht. Yet with all the aerodromes in PNG, there are no flying clubs.

If you really are that keen to do recreational flying in PNG, find a flying machine that burns kerosene to get you around. In getting around, you still have the problem of finding somewhere safe to stay.

Allan L 20th Aug 2019 21:37

This is the 5th thread started by LKinnon - the other 4 all got locked. Back to my Ignore list.

Capt Fathom 20th Aug 2019 21:54


Originally Posted by LKinnon (Post 10547955)

Any tips would be appreciated:
  • Personal safety in PNG ( do I need a gun?)

The fact you asked that question doesn’t really fit in with the idea of a leisurely flying holiday.

Kagamuga 20th Aug 2019 22:14

The whole post by LKinnon is a total windup IMHO

Let's just ignore the person and the post, stupidity is the key issue here.

BigPapi 21st Aug 2019 00:16


Originally Posted by Allan L (Post 10550169)
This is the 5th thread started by LKinnon - the other 4 all got locked. Back to my Ignore list.

I must thank you for prompting me to read his other threads - goldmine.

LKinnon 21st Aug 2019 02:57

Genuine questions and some good and relevant answers.

tail wheel 21st Aug 2019 04:18


How very sad, one of the well remembered events of said den of iniquity was the night I first met Torres over a few quiet greenies ( or were they brownies).
How unusual! Most visits to the Temple of Aeros and I don't remember leaving! :}


I thought CASA and Air Services controlled aviation in PNG so it should be pretty good?
If that is the extent of your research I suggest you forget all about visiting PNG!!

PNG is an independent nation. They have their own PNG CASA and Civil Aviation Regulations plagiarized from the New Zealand Regs.


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