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Desert Flower 6th Jul 2019 09:48

Light aircraft crash Leigh Creek
 
A light aircraft crashed north of the YLEC airfield just on last light this evening. Report of 2 entrapments. At this stage I don't know the type of aircraft or the registration.

DF.

Cloudee 6th Jul 2019 10:39

Light plane crash near Leigh Creek

The Advertiser
an hour ago

A light plane has crashed about 1km from the airport at Leigh Creek, in SA’s north.
It’s believed two people have sustained injuries.

Ambulances are at the scene.

Peter Thompson, from the Leigh Creek Caravan Park, told The Sunday Mail, he had seen a small plane flying over the town.

“It was a bit of a distance away, it looked like a light aircraft, I can see red and blue flashing lights out at the air strip,” Mr Thompson said.

Desert Flower 6th Jul 2019 11:00

Unfortunately the news is not good. Nothing left of aircraft & 2 deceased. The aircraft was in company with at least one other aircraft. They were having trouble getting the lights on, & I had been communicating with the pilot of the one that crashed. Someone did manage to get the lights on, unsure who it was. My husband went out there to activate them but he said he could see they were on before he got there so he turned around & came home.

DF.

Desert Flower 6th Jul 2019 14:10

Aircraft was a Brumby.

DF.

Squawk7700 6th Jul 2019 23:31


Last light was around 555pm if I’m not mistaken and there was reports this was at 620pm. I’m just imagining if they were running late and not equipped for NVFR on a black night (most of the time up there) waiting for runway lights to activate. Very bad situation with a terrible outcome.

Cloudee 7th Jul 2019 03:04

More info here. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-...north/11286108

machtuk 7th Jul 2019 03:07

Oh that's dreadful -:(
Is it me or do others feel a little kick in the guts when we read that fellow aviators have made their last flight?
I only hope that something comes out of this tragedy that others can learn from -:(

Ex FSO GRIFFO 7th Jul 2019 03:12

From the above reference - Re 'A temporary air exclusion zone with a one-kilometre radius has been established around the scene.'

I wonder what the circumstances are to establish a 'air exclusion zone'?

How would an overflying aircraft affect the evidence on the ground?
To deter 'ambulance chasers' I can understand, but, having been directly and indirectly involved in a few aircraft accidents over the years, I have not experienced this before.

Any other ideas?

Squawk7700 7th Jul 2019 03:12

Nil wind conditions I calculate had them landing on sunset. Tragic outcome for what could have been a greater than expected headwind.

Cloudee 7th Jul 2019 04:24


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 10511754)
From the above reference - Re 'A temporary air exclusion zone with a one-kilometre radius has been established around the scene.'

I wonder what the circumstances are to establish a 'air exclusion zone'?

How would an overflying aircraft affect the evidence on the ground?
To deter 'ambulance chasers' I can understand, but, having been directly and indirectly involved in a few aircraft accidents over the years, I have not experienced this before.

Any other ideas?

The exclusion zone is only up to 1000ft so I’d guess it’s to keep the media helicopters from getting too close. It gives the pilots a clear guide when pushed to get closer by the reporters and camera operators. Might also be to keep drones away.

kaz3g 7th Jul 2019 05:10


Originally Posted by Cloudee (Post 10511774)

The exclusion zone is only up to 1000ft so I’d guess it’s to keep the media helicopters from getting too close. It gives the pilots a clear guide when pushed to get closer by the reporters and camera operators. Might also be to keep drones away.

More likely to keep aircraft way from the drone.

kaz3g 7th Jul 2019 05:11


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 10511267)
Aircraft was a Brumby.

DF.

What happened to the reported other aircraft DF?

Cloudee 7th Jul 2019 05:33


Originally Posted by kaz3g (Post 10511789)


More likely to keep aircraft way from the drone.

Yes, the investigators would be using drones these days I suppose.

Capt Fathom 7th Jul 2019 06:37


Aircraft was a Brumby
Now that there is an oxymoron!

Checklist Charlie 7th Jul 2019 07:25


'air exclusion zone'
Methinks somebody has seen "top Gun" too many times and remembered what sounded like 'flyer talk" even though they don't know what it might mean.

CC

industry insider 7th Jul 2019 07:37

Sadly, one could drive a bus through the holes in the Swiss Cheese of this one and similar accidents.

On eyre 7th Jul 2019 08:36


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10511831)

Now that there is an oxymoron!

What are you implying Capt Fathom ?


CaptainMidnight 7th Jul 2019 08:57

"Air Exclusion Zone" is a common police term.
"Temporary Restricted Area" is the aviation term for same thing.

Not uncommon for one to be declared for aircraft crashes and other major incidents, particularly where fatalities are involved. Helicopter downwash can disturb evidence and present a hazard - particularly biohazard - to the ground parties, aside from the annoyance presented to them doing a difficult job.

If the media have half decent lenses on their cameras, the small area should not present an issue.

Edit: Per ERSA, Leigh Creek has very specific requirements for night VFR ops.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 7th Jul 2019 08:57

Tks Mr Cloudee and Kaz,

Ah yes the drones....the 'new' aerial photo vehicle.

Tks Gents...….or Gentesses...just in case....
Cheers

Desert Flower 7th Jul 2019 08:57


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10511677)

Last light was around 555pm if I’m not mistaken and there was reports this was at 620pm. I’m just imagining if they were running late and not equipped for NVFR on a black night (most of the time up there) waiting for runway lights to activate. Very bad situation with a terrible outcome.

Yes last light was 5.55PM. I'm not sure what time it was when I started speaking with the pilot, however I'm guessing it would have been around that time or maybe a bit after. He was flying around for a good ten minutes at least before my son who I had just handed the radio to as I turned to go back inside said oh s**t mum he's just declared a mayday. My CFS/MFS pager went off at 18.27PM with details of the incident. But the thing is the lights WERE on, as witnessed by my husband who drove part way out to the airport & also by my son who could see the beacon flash over the top of the hills.


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