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ACMS 28th May 2019 08:19

R22 Helo crash YMMB
 
I’m surprised this isn’t already a thread......https://www.9news.com.au/national/ne...f-4c83f00dd56f

gulliBell 28th May 2019 09:00

It's just another R22 prang, they happen all the time. Nothing of interest here.

cattletruck 28th May 2019 12:14

Quite windy in Melbourne the past few days, and those robbies are a totally different beast in those conditions - definitely not for low timers.

Oh well, their hanger was getting pretty crowded anyway with all that extra good kit arriving. Glad to see they all walked away.


Squawk7700 28th May 2019 20:54

I liked the 7 news pic of it, even an armchair expert can see what happened to it!


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5fbb01d675.png

thunderbird five 28th May 2019 22:02

Emergency response crew transcript just released:
What do you think Colin?
It's dead mate.
Stevo?
It's rooted.
Mick?
Tag it and bag it.
Sharon?
Those scratches will buff out, no problem.
Andy?
I like the color.

Righto. Anyone care for some lunch?

Sunfish 28th May 2019 22:56

Gullible:

It’s just another R22 prang, they happen all the time. Nothing of interest here.]
I guess the pilot might disagree with you.

megan 29th May 2019 00:50

Roger Bacon's analysis: A little late on the round out Hoskins.

gulliBell 29th May 2019 01:35


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10481663)
I guess the pilot might disagree with you.

I strongly suspect they know exactly what happened. By the look of it, perfectly level at touchdown, which is great, but the sink rate a bit too high, which is not so great. As evidenced by the big divot in the turf and the ball of yellow scrap sitting next to it. A bit late on the heave at the bottom, or a bit too early on the heave at the bottom. A 59 year and a 79 year old on board. Interesting. I assume the trainee was the older participant. Why a 79 year old would want to be partaking in such an exciting escapade is the big mystery in all of this.


john_tullamarine 29th May 2019 01:53

evidenced by the big divot in the turf

Given the typical deceleration loadings in helo impacts, these look to be two very lucky boys not to have come out with significant compression spinal injuries. As to 79-year olds, why not ? and good on him !

Although I sometimes do wonder about the 89-year olds taking their first foray into jumping ..

Petropavlovsk 29th May 2019 04:21

Megan,

Well done (RB) but probably straight over the heads of most:O

machtuk 29th May 2019 04:44


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 10481703)
I strongly suspect they know exactly what happened. By the look of it, perfectly level at touchdown, which is great, but the sink rate a bit too high, which is not so great. As evidenced by the big divot in the turf and the ball of yellow scrap sitting next to it. A bit late on the heave at the bottom, or a bit too early on the heave at the bottom. A 59 year and a 79 year old on board. Interesting. I assume the trainee was the older participant. Why a 79 year old would want to be partaking in such an exciting escapade is the big mystery in all of this.

I too was thinking their ages especially the 'senior' driver BUT we can't say anything abut that these days somebody will become an upset princess...lolol I guess one could look at age V risk like a roller coaster graph. When yr young you are fearless taking all sorts of risk just cause you know no better then approaching middle age other influences have an effect of yr level of risk taking, family, the wife especially so you ease it up a little, watch more than participate in dangerous stunts like light Heli flying. As yr age advances rapidly towards the so called best years of yr life you start thinking gee what have I got to lose here, am gunna die soon enough anyway why not, lets go play heli flying at 79, what's the worst that can happen? Other than being dead it's being posted on PPRUNE...lol

LeadSled 29th May 2019 07:55

Folks,
The remaining question is: Will the players replace their divots??
Tootle pip!!

Sunfish 29th May 2019 12:02


,
The remaining question is: Will the players replace their divots??
Tootle pip!!
Do the other R22s play through?

industry insider 29th May 2019 13:17


Roger Bacon's analysis: A little late on the round out Hoskins.
Understatement Mr. Bacon. That was a real skid spreader!

gulliBell 30th May 2019 00:50


Originally Posted by LeadSled (Post 10481809)
..Will the players replace their divots??

The divot was almost big enough to bury the crumpled yellow remnants where it lay. Just push it into the hole and cover it over. Save the expense of calling the crane to pick it up and drop it in the mini skip out the back of the hangar. Anyway, the insurance will pay up, might even buy them half a shiny new one. I wonder if the student has to pay the hourly rate for that training flight up to the point of self destruction?

tail wheel 30th May 2019 01:06


Although I sometimes do wonder about the 89-year olds taking their first foray into jumping ..
John, I have always seriously wondered about any supposedly sane person jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft when airborne........ :confused:

LeadSled 30th May 2019 08:39


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 10482363)
John, I have always seriously wondered about any supposedly sane person jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft when airborne........ :confused:

My sentiments entirely!!!
However, a very well known AU aviator has done a tandem jump at 85, 90 and 95, and 100 is very close.
Whatever turns you on??
Tootle pip!!

Andy_RR 31st May 2019 02:56

So it's a numbers game in the end, Leadie...?

cooperplace 31st May 2019 07:04


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10481588)
I liked the 7 news pic of it, even an armchair expert can see what happened to it!


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5fbb01d675.png

Yes. It crashed.

Remind me to not fly in any R22s. All too common a thing in these.

megan 31st May 2019 10:29


I have always seriously wondered about any supposedly sane person jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft when airborne
If you haven't jumped you haven't lived.

Reading the reports I've come to the conclusion that the most dangerous part of jumping today is the aeroplane ride.


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