Qantas Group Training Academy at Wellcamp
 

Any news/rumours on the progress of construction and arrangements for the new Qantas Group Pilot Academy at Wellcamp, Toowoomba in conjunction with L3 Commercial Aviation?
The second academy site appears not to have been named at this stage.

Plenty of news here:

https://www.pprune.org/australia-new...l#post10426456

Thanks for that. Not very good but like much these days in GA things tend to end in tears.

More than likely they ran.

CC

From the Qantas web site today

Qantas has appointed Flight Training Adelaide (FTA) as the training provider for the Toowoomba site.

The Qantas Group Pilot Academy FAQs state:

That seems quite different to the current Virgin scheme, where, if I'm not mistaken, cadets are paid a salary during the course, are 'guaranteed' a job if they pass, and are then bonded to the airline for a period of three years.

Have I got that right?

Christ I hope BDG doesn't end up a training site, it's a painful place now as it is with the yellow perils doing jet circuits & QF already going there!

FTA also train Virgin cadets:

All Cadets are employed directly by Virgin Australia and paid a competitive remuneration package for the duration of the Cadet Training Program. This remuneration package is to assist with FTA accommodation and food costs. Our Cadets will also have access to benefits which include access to the Virgin Australia staff travel program and assistance with obtaining your Commercial Pilot’s Licence.

Following successful completion of the Cadet Training Program and meeting all the requirements of the role, you will be offered a permanent role within the Virgin Australia group and will be employed under the applicable pilots’ agreement.

With zero progression to Qantas or Jetstar and only vague prospects with QLink the QGPA doesn't offer much

ROFL APMS!!!!!

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...lcamp-academy/

Capacity of 250 cadets per year. Original plan talked up eventual capacity of 500 per year.

So, someone check my numbers here. Say 200 cadets doing 150 CPL course initially. That is 30,000 hours. Over one third of which are solo hours but for those an instructor is "supervising" on the ground or contactable by electronic means. They are going to need a lot of instructors.

"“After graduation, students will automatically join the Qantas Group’s pilot talent pool and have access to opportunities with other partners which will help fast track placement in the aviation industry,” Qantas said." Read to me as no direct employment afterwards and a need to go out and gain actual hours somewhere before being able to come back in a GA industry that is being strangled by CASA. I'm pretty sure I've heard this one before, I believe Griffith University had a partnership a while ago with Qantas, Students were interviewed, placed in the "Talent Pool" then told to go out and gain a thousand hours before they were qualified and from memory not a lot of those Pilots ended up actually getting in for various reasons.

As Icarus said, that's a lot of instructors as well, though I think Icarus is a bit light on the numbers, 150hr CPL course, they need ME-IR as well, even with a really well integrated course I'd day say closer to 170hrs on average times 250 students, 2/3 solo 28,050hrs means at least 50 instructors though more like 60 to allow some fat in the system? Has anyone seen any advertisements for the providers looking to increase their numbers?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for something like this, I've long wondered by Qantas and others haven't tried to set this up to have more control over numbers and quality coming in but this feels like more smoke and mirrors to me.

Caveat Emptor.

No doubt the glossy brochure has an A380 with gender fluid new hire endorsing the product.
The small print will tell a different story, flung to a 'subsidiary' at a non-market IR driven rate, with much accumulated debt over one's head.

A glossy brochure suggesting one thing, for the fine print to deliver another is an abuse. It is deemed misleading and deceptive conduct.
Therefore, 'applicants' ought consider carefully the fine print before deciding.

Are you sure the fine print stipulates they actually gained paid employment or merely access to 'talent pool' ?

Why do you have this idea that students are guaranteed jobs at the completion of the course? Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if successful students of a particular gender ended up with jobs, the FAQ's makes it clear there's no such promise, only that students are placed into the talent pool alongside those that are already there.