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Diamond DA42 Down in New Zealand
Police confirm two deceased, apparently experienced instructors from Ardmore Flying School. Aircraft down in Kaimanawa Ranges. After an overnight search for the missing aircraft, which was reported missing last night at about 22:00, the wreckage was found this morning in steep terrain. The aircraft was last seen on radar about 22 nautical miles SSE of Taupo on a flight from Palmerston North to Ardmore Airport.
R.I.P. Souls on Board. |
It seems there is only one DA42 at Ardmore Flying School. It was imported as N422DK and originally NZ registered as ZK-DAX. It was later changed to ZK-EAN.
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A Little more information from various news sources:
The pilots were on a regular flight as part of the requirement to gain flying hours towards a higher qualification. A rescue helicopter was mobilised last night and tried to reach the last-known location of the plane, 24km east of Tūrangi, but had to turn back because of low cloud and drizzle. The crash site was said to be in steep, high country. There was more low cloud and drizzle this morning and the rescue team was waiting for conditions to improve earlier before they could get in the air. |
Originally Posted by Bravo Delta
(Post 10428162)
Early days, Me thinks DME step exceeded, No ATC coverage = failure of Airways NZ .To much reliance on button pushing animation = failure of flight training worldwide. RIP |
They had 2 ZK-EAN & ZK-EAP the latter being the subject aircraft.
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Two instructors in fatal crash NZ
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Weather Related?
The cloud base was in the trees, so why not IFR?
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Originally Posted by philc206
(Post 10428784)
The cloud base was in the trees, so why not IFR?
The flight track certainly looks like a PM SID followed by an intercept to IFR route tracking for APITI - TARUA- AP; of course GPS can make any flightpath look as though it were IFR tracking. |
Originally Posted by Capt. On Heat
(Post 10428806)
Where does it say they weren't IFR? I'm not saying they were just that media information I have seen hasn't made mention of it - One would suspect with that weather, over that terrain, in the evening, in an IFR twin, they would've been. Not need to start doubting the guys immediately without many facts. The flight track certainly looks like a PM SID followed by an intercept to IFR route tracking for APITI - TARUA- AP; of course GPS can make any flightpath look as though it were IFR tracking. |
Thank you Bravo Delta and Bravohotel for clarification and correction of my postings. Have there been many other DA42 incidents of this nature? |
RIP the two aviators, can't help them now but hopefully others can learn from their demise:-(
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The track shows decent 500-900 fpm. Looks like they just started descending way too early. Sector alt there is 7800.... [/QUOTE]7,800 LSALT on the track. Depending on the version of DA42 they were in, that could have been a big problem OEI. I doubt they were in the latest version. |
Originally Posted by philc206
(Post 10428784)
The cloud base was in the trees, so why not IFR?
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Not necessarily. They were flying late for the coverage below 10,000 - when I fly there at night they offer me non-standard altitude to finish the flight under control. Besides, even outside of the control area there are approach plates and charts that depict safe procedures for approach (I am talking about GPS now, NDB in Taupo is notoriously unreliable). DA42 has very decent G1000 package which helps a lot in terms of orientation and positioning. Sorry pal, How many times do we in NZ have to witness these kinds of accidents, yes we all can make mistakes but in the world of modern technology why can’t Airways Corp provide a service ( Radar oversight ) for our young kiwis trying to better themselves. User pay system is harming safety and progress - Airways Corp guilty. |
Originally Posted by Bravo Delta
(Post 10428924)
Sorry pal, How many times do we in NZ have to witness these kinds of accidents, yes we all can make mistakes but in the world of modern technology why can’t Airways Corp provide a service ( Radar oversight ) for our young kiwis trying to better themselves. User pay system is harming safety and progress - Airways Corp guilty. Yep they where IFR and because they where training I don’t believe they where looking for a visual approach. |
Bravo Delta
It might surprise you to know the following airports, all of which have scheduled flights serving them involve IFR flight outside controlled airspace, day or night. Kaitaia, Kerikeri, Whangarei, Whakatane, Taupo, Wanganui, Paraparaumu, Hokitika, Westport, Timaru. Later at night you can add Hamilton, Palmerston North, Napier Gisborne, New Plymouth, Tauranga, Rotorua plus a few others. As utopian as your suggestion is I don't see radar control services being provided in these areas either during main business hours far less 24/7. The cost is too high. From what I am observing Airways cannot staff their current requirements without them providing even greater coverage. Also are you telling me everywhere in Oz has radar services in similar areas? |
Both being instructors were they maybe practicing simulated SE? |
Do you ever practice simulated SE at night? I wouldn't have thought so.
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Originally Posted by B2N2
(Post 10429051)
Both being instructors were they maybe practicing simulated SE? |
The aircraft: (From Wings over New Zealand Aviation Forum)
https://i104.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0eyocx1n.jpg |
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