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Squawk7700 26th Nov 2018 21:02

This skimming on the water “thing”
 
Maybe I missed the boat with this trend (pardon the pun), but what is the go with skimming these bush tires across lakes and rivers?

It appeared to become a trend a few years back and now of late most of the YouTube vloggers are doing it. In one of the videos, the owner of the Kitfox company is showing an aircraft owner how to do it.

From anyone that has done it, is it as insanely dangerous as it looks or do these bush tires repel you off the water if you push the stick too far forward???

Snakecharma 26th Nov 2018 21:16

I have not watched the videos, but do they say “watch this!” Because that always ends well :)

machtuk 26th Nov 2018 21:34

No matter what machine a human designs there's always those that want to play cowboy & take it beyond it's intended use, maybe its a boy thingy?

mcoates 26th Nov 2018 22:17

Lesson No. 1 You have to have your brakes on.

kaz3g 26th Nov 2018 22:24

Charles Lamb recounts doing this inadvertently in a “Stringbag” during a night torpedo approach in WWII.

He held the stick to maintain same angle of attack, increased power and it lifted off again

kaz

First_Principal 26th Nov 2018 23:24


Originally Posted by kaz3g (Post 10321216)
Charles Lamb recounts doing this inadvertently in a “Stringbag” during a night torpedo approach in WWII.

He held the stick to maintain same angle of attack, increased power and it lifted off again

kaz

To anyone interested enough to follow this up here's a review of Charles' book, 'War in a Stringbag'. Sounds like a good read, a shame there are no reasonably priced copies in this part of the world.

Also a Wikipedia article on the man himself.

UPDATE: Turns out that Bookdepository has a special on this book, hope to be enjoying the read soon :)

FP.

Aussie Bob 27th Nov 2018 01:05


Lesson No. 1 You have to have your brakes on
Even that is a technique of conflicting reports, I have been told it is a myth. I see the videos even of these “boys” even marvelled at them crossing each other’s wakes. Not for me!


UPDATE: Turns out that Bookdepository has a special on this book, hope to be enjoying the read soon :)
Your money has been very well spent! Enjoy one of the great aviation reads.

AerocatS2A 27th Nov 2018 07:06

Not exactly a new thing. I suspect it’s something that looks a lot more dangerous than it is.


KRviator 27th Nov 2018 07:37


Originally Posted by AerocatS2A (Post 10321470)
Not exactly a new thing. I suspect it’s something that looks a lot more dangerous than it is.

It's all fun and games, until it's not.

Squawk7700 27th Nov 2018 08:39


Originally Posted by KRviator (Post 10321494)
It's all fun and games, until it's not.

That doesn’t quite match the scenario being discussed.

kaz3g 27th Nov 2018 09:11


Originally Posted by First_Principal (Post 10321254)
To anyone interested enough to follow this up here's a review of Charles' book, 'War in a Stringbag'. Sounds like a good read, a shame there are no reasonably priced copies in this part of the world.

Also a Wikipedia article on the man himself.

UPDATE: Turns out that Bookdepository has a special on this book, hope to be enjoying the read soon :)

FP.

Its a great read and he has to be one of the bravest men of his time.

kaz

601 27th Nov 2018 11:47


I suspect it’s something that looks a lot more dangerous than it is.
Ask the blokes in green flying a Swiss aircraft who tried to do this at night.

cowl flaps 28th Nov 2018 03:18

Not too dis-similar to the ski attachments Col Pay was trying to perfect for loading water for fire bombing when he went in.

rich34glider 28th Nov 2018 06:46

One of the dumbest things I've ever seen .. so much for sensible risk management & airmanship!

Berealgetreal 28th Nov 2018 06:58


One of the dumbest things I've ever seen .. so much for sensible risk management & airmanship!
Yep. Beyond stupid.

Squawk7700 28th Nov 2018 07:52


Originally Posted by cowl flaps (Post 10322309)
Not too dis-similar to the ski attachments Col Pay was trying to perfect for loading water for fire bombing when he went in.

That crash report posted above WAS Col Pay.

BluSdUp 28th Nov 2018 20:09

In the spring of 1992 Krazy Bill at Stewart Lake Airways was finally checking out me and Ed on his C185.
I did my stuff first and after a while Bill was happy.
Ed and I swapped seats and off we went blasting down the lake.
Ed did ok, and his third or so landing he was particularly pleased with as he touched down smuuuuthly and turned to Bill and grinned....
SUDDENLY we felt it dig in as Ed had forgotten to add backpressure, Bill promptly yanked us out of the water, added pwr bounced once and Ed changed to a dark pink in his face.

I did a season with Bill and Ed later went home to Toronto , without an hrs more on the C185.
Point:
When it starts digging in its submarine time.
The most stupid thing I have ever seen.
Some kid will get it wrong.
And to top it off : this is on glassy water that is the worst condition for height perception and digg - in!
Pure Darwinism.

Aussie Bob 28th Nov 2018 21:07


Pure Darwinism
I am sure it would also be pure fun as anyone who has flown a seaplane will attest. I have an aircraft with 32 inch tundra tyres but I ain’t trying it, To those that do though, good luck and enjoy!

Capt Fathom 28th Nov 2018 21:27

Like this Aussie Bob?




Good to see some countries allow you to have fun in an aeroplane!

cowl flaps 29th Nov 2018 05:33


Originally Posted by Squawk7700 (Post 10322403)


That crash report posted above WAS Col Pay.

Thanks Squawk,- I didn't open that link 'til now.


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