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aviationluver

24th Apr 2018 16:53

EASA ATPL to AUS or NZ ATPL?

Hello,

Could someone please tell me what would need to be done in order to convert an EASA ATPL to an Aussie or NZ ATPL?

I have a few thousand hours of multicrew and turbine time.

Would it just be a matter of taking written tests?

Thanks.

haughtney1

24th Apr 2018 17:07

http://www.caa.govt.nz/pilots/Flight...ition_Info.pdf

Much easier to do the NZ version than the far more complicated Oz one, and even if you need an Oz license, google TTMRA.

dubsor

25th Apr 2018 06:09

Hi Aviationluver, I agree with haughtney1. I’ve just done the Oz ATPL flight test and it was a mission. Not too sure about the NZ process but I believe its Airlaw exam, medical and flight test. The Oz one as follows:
1. Have your overseas qualification assessed by CLARC.
2. Write AOSA, AHUF and IREX exams.
3. Attain Class 1 medical.
4. Do the ATPL flight test consisting of a 3 hour ground component oral exam, followed by a 3:30-4:00 (if done in Sim) flight test.

In my case the CASA FTE suggested it be spread over two days, ground component, IFR flight planning etc. then flight test on day 2. Total cost to myself, approx A$10,000. Included 2 hour practice session to get back up to speed as I had not been flying for approx. 13months. Had to rent a Qantas sim.

The alternative would be to do the NZ one, then present that to CASA and they’ll hand you a OZ ATPL by way of the Tasman agreement!

enjoy!

DeltaT

25th Apr 2018 07:44

You really will have to look up the regs or give a call/email to each of the CAAs concerned, it will be the only way to know for sure.
Listening to people here could put you wrong because there are variations of recognition depending on CPL, ATPL, and how many thousands of hours you have.

I would speculate that there must be some sort of dispensation in place for taking on overseas pilots in Australia under the 457 Visa scheme or they wouldn't be able to employ those pilots quick enough if they had to go through that many hoops, compared to if you do it under your own steam.

Also be aware that Australia has a better recognition of the EASA licence than NZ does.

Despite which licence you may want, work out which licence is easier to get for you, and then use the TTMRA to get the other one.if need be. Note there are far more jobs in Australia than NZ.

zanzibar

25th Apr 2018 08:35

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2. Write AOSA, AHUF and IREX exams

Really??

I'd have thought completing them was the requirement.

Lapon

27th Apr 2018 23:09

I would also suggest checking the small print of the TTMRA policy: I am hopefully wrong but (years ago anyway) I had a feeling that if you could not apply to convert your NZ - OZ licence (and vice versa) under the TTMRA if that licence was itself was converted from overseas. Again, hopefully I am.mistaken.

For what its worth there are plenty of jobs going in both countries but Oz will give you many more options of employer etc, and Im pretty sure all the NZ based jet operators other than Air NZ require you to have an Oz licence as thier aircraft are on the Oz register anyway.

DeltaT

28th Apr 2018 07:50

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you could not apply to convert your NZ - OZ licence (and vice versa) under the TTMRA if that licence was itself was converted from overseas.

No such rule.

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