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Ex FSO GRIFFO 4th Apr 2018 02:36

Caravan 'Down'....Is This For Real... ?
 
Is this 'for real'... ?
Source is self-explanatory.....

Is this seaplane under the sea? Kimberley marine park investigation underway - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


Oh Dear.......

Connedrod 4th Apr 2018 10:29

Yep got a call about it today

Aussie Bob 4th Apr 2018 11:19


"With 17,000 incidents, serious incidents and accident notifications made to the ATSB last year, it is not possible for the ATSB to investigate every occurrence... the ATSB focuses its resources in the areas that are most likely to result in safety improvements
That is 46 odd incidents per day every day of the year :sad:

Slatye 4th Apr 2018 11:28


Originally Posted by Aussie Bob (Post 10107024)
That is 46 odd incidents per day every day of the year :sad:

That's over aviation, marine, and rail - and it's notifications, not raw incidents. I expect most of the accidents are train-related simply because of the large amount of train traffic in cities. Combine (a) people being silly - restrictions for train travel are much looser than for aircraft, and (b) potentially tens of notifications for the same incident, and you'd get that 46 per day easily.

cowl flaps 4th Apr 2018 15:56

So, a multi million dollar insurance claim lodged and Horizontal Falls Seaplane Adventures Troy Thomas claims the aircraft is in their Broome hangar ?

Some 'porky pies' floating around here.

topdrop 4th Apr 2018 22:52

I think you will find of the 46 per day, most are aviation, mainly because ATC have to submit inane "incident" reports on the most trivial things. e.g. Having QFA933 and QFA923 on freq at same time, some controllers are submitting incidents listed as Possible callsign confusion. You could then have multiple controllers in different submitting the same incident. If they think it could lead to an incident, why don't they follow the change callsign examples in AIP to avoid the possible incident. There are plenty more examples at this level of stupidity.

PoppaJo 5th Apr 2018 00:42

Emirates last week introduced alpha numeric callsigns across its Australian flights in an effort to reduce incidents. Etihad also is on selected flights.

taraglen 6th Apr 2018 03:59

According to CASA website VH-PGA is not on the register

1a sound asleep 6th Apr 2018 07:50

So who is telling lies about a crashed plane a huge insurance claim here? Where is the ATSB? This is an airline category aircraft? All lies, fraud or coverup?

YPJT 6th Apr 2018 08:18


So who is telling lies about a crashed plane a huge insurance claim here? Where is the ATSB? This is an airline category aircraft? All lies, fraud or coverup?
Shades of the Skippers incident just up the road - literally

Stationair8 6th Apr 2018 10:47

The Broome Triangle?

taraglen 6th Apr 2018 14:10

Clearly the ABC news has their facts wrong.
False news here, unless the Company operates 2 X VH PGA's and one of them did in fact sink.
One of the VH-PGA's was shown to the ABC by Thomas, sitting high and dry in his hangar DAYS AFTER the other VH-PGA's alleged sinking in Talbot Bay on 15th March?
Go Figure.

tail wheel 6th Apr 2018 21:45


According to CASA website VH-PGA is not on the register
Indeed, no VH-PGA on the CASA register. However there was a C208 VH-PGA at least in 2015 - see ATSB Investigation number: AO-2015-083:


Near collision involving Cessna 210L, VH-TCI, and Cessna 208, VH-PGA 46 km NNE of Broome Airport, WA on 15 July 2015
Regosearch states:


Here are the Australian aviation rego search results for 'VH-PGA'.
The aircraft registration database was last refreshed from the Australian Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) on 03/Apr/2018
So, VH-PGA appears to have existed on the Register only four days ago?

Intriguing?

edsbar 6th Apr 2018 22:00

CASA rego search has been broken for weeks.

Try this https://www.casa.gov.au/aircraft-register/pga

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story ....

tail wheel 6th Apr 2018 22:28

Obviously!

No matter what field I use at the CASA registration search site - tried "Cessna 208" and "2080031" - the result was always "no record".

Probably should have anticipated the CASA search function could be broken..... :ugh:

WingNut60 7th Apr 2018 02:30


Originally Posted by Stationair8 (Post 10109104)
The Broome Triangle?

Not to forget the little amphib that plummeted to the bottom when its mooring rope broke at the Koolan Island wharf in mid-80's.
The rope wouldn't support the weight of the aircraft, suspended vertically, when the tide went out.

Crew were enjoying some Sunday refreshments at the KI Wet Mess.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 7th Apr 2018 13:13

Hey 'WN',

I saw a prawn trawler do exactly the same thing in 'Sam's Creek' near Pt Samson, WA in '71......

The silly little men had it tied up 'tight' to the jetty on a 'full tide', and then 'retired' into the very local 'tinny club'....completely unawares that the tide was dropping at an 'alarming' rate,
as it does up there, and the heavy fibreglass trawler, (the 'Reliant'), firmly lashed to said jetty, simply pulled the whole jetty into the creek...on top of said trawler...!!!

Took them months to raise it, dry it out, rebuild said jetty.....

Oh Dear!!

So, I can imagine the scene......
Cheers :ouch::ouch:

Apols for the 'drift'....if U get my drift......

WingNut60 7th Apr 2018 13:44


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 10110220)
Hey 'WN',

I saw a prawn trawler do exactly the same thing in 'Sam's Creek' near Pt Samson, WA in '71......

The silly little men had it tied up 'tight' to the jetty on a 'full tide', and then 'retired' into the very local 'tinny club'....completely unawares that the tide was dropping at an 'alarming' rate,
as it does up there, and the heavy fibreglass trawler, (the 'Reliant'), firmly lashed to said jetty, simply pulled the whole jetty into the creek...on top of said trawler...!!!

Took them months to raise it, dry it out, rebuild said jetty.....

Oh Dear!!

So, I can imagine the scene......
Cheers :ouch::ouch:

Apols for the 'drift'....if U get my drift......

It got worse at KI.
When aircraft was raised, with island police assistance, there was an unlicensed firearm on board.

Very sad bunch.

Aircraft was small, single engine amphib with engine pod over the fuselage.
Maybe a pusher. I forget what they were called.

EDIT : Lake Bucaneer

Ixixly 8th Apr 2018 01:05

About a week and a half since that article came out, very curious as to what the full story is behind all this!

sms777 8th Apr 2018 05:54


Originally Posted by Ixixly (Post 10110643)
About a week and a half since that article came out, very curious as to what the full story is behind all this!

We may never know. Look at the Skippers fiasco. Very secretive bunch them Kimberley Klan.


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