Paspaley Mallard
 

Anyone know what they pay and conditions are for Captains and FOs on the Paspaley Mallards out of Darwin?

Cheers.

No, but I'd say you stand little chance as Capt, dead mens shoes to get that shot. FO, no idea.

Why would I have little chance as a Capt? Thanks...

What he’s trying to say is there’s only so many captain slots for those aircraft which are already spoken for. Said captains will only move on when they die and/or retire hopefully the latter. If it’s a great gig and they like the job there’s no reason for them to to go anywhere.

Oh ok. I figured megan was saying she has “no idea” about pay and conditions, yet she somehow knows I’d have little chance as a Captain, even though she has know idea about pay and conditions.. I’m just wondering how accurate this information is, if she has “no idea” about it.
Some actual facts would be great, rather than vague guesswork!
If anyone knows...thanks!

Little more info from yourself would be useful JS. If you want to know the basic pay level then I'm sure you've already checked the Award and it's pretty hard to tell you if you could expect anything above award without knowing what your skill levels are.

Also, have you tried contacting them directly?

Also Megan I'd say is dead on, I remember seeing them advertise for FO positions once or twice but I can't remember ever seeing them advertise for Captains, I'd expect it'd be rather like the Captains at Air Whitsundays, the positions don't come up very often as they are fairly niche and would undoubtedly be very well looked after to keep them.

They probably prefer captains with less attitude and an ability to understand the written word.

Thanks dude. I have about 7,000 hours total time, mostly all in amphibious turbines, including multi-engine turbine floatplanes. CASA ATPL, FAA ATP, Canadian CPL, EASA CPL. Right to live and work in Australia.
I didn’t bother listing that before as it’s not relevant to what their terms and conditions currently are - which is what my question was about.

I have not worked in Australia for awhile, so I’m not up with the award anymore. I doubt there is even an award listed for Multi-Engine Flying Hull.

From what I understand they don’t advertise for Captains as there are very few of us from/in Australia with Multi-engine seaplane time. They simply can’t find qualified people, so they upgrade from their Co-pilots, who are easier to hire.

I spoke with them years ago, and the pay was not great so I didn’t pursue it. I’m curious if anyone knows what the pay is now, I might drop them a line, but I’m not sure they’ll give details of term and conditions unless offering a job.

Captains at Air Whitsundays - can’t imagine they are getting paid much these days either, but I hope they are!

Nah, they would like Captains who work with facts and actual knowledge rather than people with limited expertise in a field just throwing their 2 cents in.

You're 18 YO and have 7,000 hours. Well, I never. If you were a little more truthful you may get a more expansive answer. Contact them direct on +61 (0) 8 8982 5560 or [email protected] and get it from the horses mouth.

My name real name is not Jerry Springer either - I simply choose not to divulge all my details on-line for no good reason.
Besides, my name and age have absolutely nothing to do with what the current pay and conditions are there - which is the information I’m seeking.
I can say I’m 14 or 268, and the current Pay and Conditions on the Paspaley Mallard won’t change a cent.
I know I’m fully qualified for the job, but that’s not anyones concern here either... it’s just info on terms and conditions I’m after. If anyone happens to know then great! If not too bad.

(thanks for the contact though - much appreciated - though I was hoping someone could say. I’m just not sure it’s a good idea to email a company and ask how much they are currently paying their pilots, but I might do so if nobody here knows. Cheers!)

You might be qualified for a CA position there but there simply aren’t any CA positions for reasons stated in my previous post. The CA’s currently flying that gig have no intention to move on, it’s that simple.

Well you just know everything don't you apart from their phone number... it's not that difficult champ.

And if you really thought outside the box, you could ring and ask to talk to a pilot in the crew room..... if you had the phone number. Damn.

I am not sure Nick would allow a CP to even read a CV, from a Jerry Springer. Nick does have high standards including the Mallard fleet.

I had a bit to do with the old CP of the Mallards again I think they will be in low numbers over the Paspaly Mallard history, don't even ever recall hearing a complaint from any pilot in that fleet - but there will of course be a few. I had contact - but not close contact with them.

I just hope you are not American or your name choice is very poor to be taken remotely seriously.

That’s rather funny coming from a chap by the name of 'Bend alot’ :D

So this chap in a crewroom gets a call from someone he doesn’t know, and then tells this stranger how much his employer is paying him, and what his terms and conditions are...yeah, ok...
But thanks for the suggestion.

Anyhow folks, apologies if I sounded blunt. If you can’t answer the specific question asked, best I simply dismiss your post. No point wasting each others time!

Happy 2018, and fly safe!

Just to round the thread off, was told at dinner tonight they have six crews, work five days on two off, dry season work your butt off, wet season work two or three days and the rest reserve, very little turn over, FO slot perhaps every two or three years, and to get a job it will be on the recommendation of some one who knows you. Salary north of the award, how much is an in house arrangement. So the rumour has it, any or all could be wrong.

thanks Megan...

megan I would only say all are north of the award and by a fair bit - and it is a invitation only club.

So being on a high horse wont help, nor thinking being anonymous for a nice market be a benefit.

"Thanks dude. I have about 7,000 hours total time, mostly all in amphibious turbines, including multi-engine turbine floatplanes. CASA ATPL, FAA ATP, Canadian CPL, EASA CPL. Right to live and work in Australia."


They will already know you if you tell truths. Also if you have not!

They probably don’t know me, but they will certainly know many people I know! There are few of us from Australia with mulit-englie seaplane time. However I have not been in Australia for over 10 years, so I’m out of the loop.
I know that years ago they didn’t pay on the Mallard what ‘we’ can earn in the Maldives and alike on the Twin Otter. But these days, I have no idea what they pay, hence my question. I bet it would be awesome flying either way!

And with all these people you know and being such a small niche group, you weren't able to reach out to any of them to ask these questions and get direct answers?

Yes, I have managed that now. All my friends Aussies working on Floats are no longer in Australia, they all moved out for more money years ago. Hence I asked here..but I have some answers now via networking. Thanks, bye!

pera hits the old nail right on the head ("you can lead a horse to water. . .. " The superior undercurrent of brash resentment is what bugs me.)

Great poeple great company to work for. If you can get in you will enjoy yourself

Oh the Mighty "Grumman" Flying Boats .... Bless ;)

...and those Grummans look just grand with the turboprop fit out, no precarious turning of the prop before starting so as not to hydraulic the engine.

There is flying and there is flying. :ok:

Then they look to come home to roost.

But don't want the R/H seat or the pay that follows & any seniority gone.

The Maldives in the years gone as an expat - don't help in the later years Nor do the African ones.


P.S keep a tab on self worth of a position, and Darwin can be a harsh place to live more so with a family, that said having lived there I think more than 3 decades in total.

And on top of the Maldives for floats, there's The Philippines, Sri Lanka, Fiji, Indonesia (probably Thailand again soonish too) pros and cons working in each, but the money is way more than working in Australia. The Mallard would be damn fun though!

Are you people actually kidding?

The OP asked for conditions. It's not exactly published anywhere like most airline contracts are with fairwork (or on this VERY WEBSITE where every other airline's salaries are stated), so it's a valid question. The man (woman?) didn't ask for life advice on how to apply for a job, minimum requirements or to be judged on how many or little hours he (or she) has on floats.

:mad:sake - 31 posts later and it still hasn't been answered. :ugh::ugh::ugh:

I'm with RomeoCharlie here - Jesus, the guy, Mr Springer, asks a simple question and gets torn apart. And then some toolbox called bendalot has the hide to say Mr Springer can't even tell the truth. What a bunch of wankers - and I'm so disappointed Ive lowered myself to do the same.


Next time someone asks a question - if you know the answer provide it, if you don't then shut the fark up