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Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 07:36


Originally Posted by haydnc (Post 9971492)

Yeh its called a LBS. log book statement. This has previously been brought up. Its what we do our maintenance too. Nothing new
We also use log cards as well btw for break down within components and conponents.

haydnc 28th Nov 2017 07:41


Still waiting for the link.
Check the message above.


what responsibility that owner has in law to work carried out on that aircraft.
No, i'm not talking about work carried out. Work carried out is the problem of the LAME. We are talking about work required.


Ask your phd freind
You have access to this resource as well.


Haydn

haydnc 28th Nov 2017 07:44


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9971501)
Yeh its called a LBS. log book statement.

CAR 41 says not a thing about logbook statements.

Now, you definitely are just making things up.

Haydn

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 07:52


Originally Posted by haydnc (Post 9971506)
CAR 41 says not a thing about logbook statements.

Now, you definitely are just making things up.

Haydn

Wtf you really have no idea do you. Where do you think all maintenance for a aircraft and what maintenance for that aircraft is located. Honestly before you open your mouth check your facts
Have you ever read a MR. What dose it say in regrad to maintenance. I may suguest that you go back to primary school as you cant read or understand how this all works. You obviously had someone quote you the car but you fail to understand what and how it works and what is required by it.

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 07:57

Maintenance schedule and maintenance instructions

(1) The holder of the certificate of registration for a class B aircraft must ensure that all maintenance required to be carried out on the aircraft (including any aircraft components from time to time included in or fitted to the aircraft) by the aircraft’s maintenance schedule is carried out when required by that schedule.

Penalty: 50 penalty units.

(2) A person must not use a class B aircraft in an operation if there is not a maintenance schedule for the aircraft that includes provision for the maintenance of all aircraft components from time to time included in, or fitted to, the aircraft.

haydnc 28th Nov 2017 07:59


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9971514)
Wtf you really have no idea do you.

Yeah, its become clear, you must be right. Thank-you for your education.

:D

You fail to address paragraph (1), which is what I am referring to in my previous posts.


(1) The holder of the certificate of registration for a class B aircraft must ensure that all maintenance required to be carried out on the aircraft (including any aircraft components from time to time included in or fitted to the aircraft) by the aircraft’s maintenance schedule is carried out when required by that schedule.

Car 41 is superceeded btw
Where did it go?

Bend alot 28th Nov 2017 08:03

How does a "private" aircraft fair with a hand held fire extinguisher - when it is fitted as equipment as new from the factory?

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 08:04

Where do you think the maintenance shedule is located
In you back pocket
On the moon
Or maybe just maybe the lbs in the front of the look book that all maintenance required to be crried out is located

haydnc 28th Nov 2017 08:12


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9971530)
Or maybe just maybe the lbs in the front of the look book that all maintenance required to be crried out is located

Does it have a statement that the fire ext is to be maintained IAW AWB 26-3
Seat belts are to be replaced IAW 25-2
etc...

Your LBS's must be huge! No wonder you are making all these AWB's, AC's etc a requirement!

Bend alot 28th Nov 2017 08:28

If a Maintenance schedule does not include maintenance for a handheld fire extinguisher it is defective and can not be used (actually it needs to be reported).

CAsA Schedule 5 covers hand held's and states that time limits of the manufacturer must be observed.

Now since tis is data direction from CAsA it must be done.



6.1 The replacement or overhaul of time-lifed components required in an Airworthiness Limitations Section of the aeroplane’s maintenance manual and any special techniques required by the manufacturer or an Airworthiness Directive are required to be complied with. If it is clear from the terms of the manufacturer’s requirement that the manufacturer considers compliance is optional, then that requirement is optional.

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 08:54


Originally Posted by Bend alot (Post 9971557)
If a Maintenance schedule does not include maintenance for a handheld fire extinguisher it is defective and can not be used (actually it needs to be reported).

CAsA Schedule 5 covers hand held's and states that time limits of the manufacturer must be observed.

Now since tis is data direction from CAsA it must be done.






6.1 The replacement or overhaul of time-lifed components required in an Airworthiness Limitations Section of the aeroplane’s maintenance manual and any special techniques required by the manufacturer or an Airworthiness Directive are required to be complied with. If it is clear from the terms of the manufacturer’s requirement that the manufacturer considers compliance is optional, then that requirement is optional.


Never let the turth get in the way of a fool (being polite bob).
I think they think we make this stuff up.
Btw haydn i suggest you have a look at a lbs. Generally one statement in a lbs is stated
All manufacturers o/h and maintenance to be COMPLIED WITH

Lead Balloon 28th Nov 2017 10:09


Originally Posted by haydnc (Post 9971469)
I'm unsure of your meaning. Are you saying I'm retarded? ...

”Full Retard” is an allusion to a very funny movie - Tropic Thunder. I commend it to you.

By continuing this ‘discussion’ with the People’s Front of Judean Log Book Statements (another movie allusion), you risk going Full Retard. The People’s Front of Judean Log Book Statements sect believes that the maintenance Truth, and the only maintenance Truth, is embodied in and has its origin in (kneel and avert thine eyes): THE LOGBOOK STATEMENT. Members of this sect communicate secretly with each other by drawing, with their toes, the letters “lbs” in the sand on the beach when members meet. This means the members do not have to risk exposing their adherence.

Failure to worship (kneel and avert thine eyes) THE LOGBOOK STATEMENT is a mortal sin, resulting in regulatory, airworthiness and safety heresies for which thy will be crucified!

Never go Full Retard.

haydnc 28th Nov 2017 10:12


Tropic Thunder. I commend it to you.
Stiller! I couldn't do it.


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9971577)

All manufacturers o/h and maintenance to be COMPLIED WITH

And that's okay for it to say that. None of mine do.

Haydn

gerry111 28th Nov 2017 10:39


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9971003)
Wtf are you for real. Once again another useless post from yourself.
One you dont know me but i know of you.
I gave you an open invitation to come and work with me for a week to show me your superior avaition maintenance skills, you declined said you could meet for coffee or such.
I pm you. When you thought you knew were i was that was it. Clearly im not as dumb as to tell you were i am. I can tell you i am not at crookwell.

All i have ever given is truthful informative information on this site, not only as i see it but what is the law and how it works. I take note of what is said. I dont go and have a little like others when they have the hide to say extemly nasty and visishes things about me but they dont like it when something is said about them, please count yourself in that statement.
You have the hide to make judgement on me because of what i say on here. Ill stand my record in the industry agaist yours on any day, nomand ring a bell ?
What and i already said, is the tottal lack on this subject of one person in particular and i have clearly shown with the regulations as fact not if buts maybe but FACTS. Tjis person will not answer any questions that are relevant to this thread and what he is saying then defame me and says i should be a AWI because i know the gotchas. No i know the regulations that i have to work to, this is to stay on the right side of the law.
What you fellas now should be asking is what lead sled is doing and strat asking him what he is doing as can be seen he really has no idea. But no he is your buddy and we cant do that. Will just go after you instead.
For the record i am myself and know one else. Apart from looking up and getting the right # for a reg or copying and pasting the knowledge that is written here is from me and what i have learnt over the years.
So i challenge you folk to ask of leadie what you ask off me. Ask him what right he has to use the regulations in a day to day legal right. And all the other questions on this thread that i have ask him. You see all i have done is tell the trurth and as the movie said YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRURTH.
Tootie toot toot tweety.

All that I've said is that I prefer for you to never work on an aircraft that I fly in. It's nothing personal at all. As you know, I'd be more than happy to have a coffee or breakfast with you at my expense.

There appears to be a bit of confusion with PPRuNe names on this thread. I believe that LeadSled and Lead Balloon are indeed different people. I believe Bandalot; Connedrod and yr right to be one and same. (I thank Bend alot for sending me a PM to say that he is not Connedrod.)

Connedrod, I actually do live in Richmond NSW. You?

P.S. Whilst I do know who LeadSled is, he's not my buddy.

Lead Balloon 28th Nov 2017 10:46

I thought I was LeadSled as well?

Now I’m confused.

Tail Wheel

gerry111 28th Nov 2017 10:57


Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9971003)
You have the hide to make judgement on me because of what i say on here.

I understand that's how it works.

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 17:26


Originally Posted by haydnc (Post 9971642)
Stiller! I couldn't do it.



And that's okay for it to say that. None of mine do.

Haydn

As you reminded us all, may i suggest if you are the owner it is your responsibility to issue the following. Also ask your phd law man what the the trem" duty of care" and how it would relate in a civil court in the event of an accident if an awb was not compiled with.

41 Maintenance schedule and maintenance instructions

(1) The holder of the certificate of registration for a class B aircraft must ensure that all maintenance required to be carried out on the aircraft (including any aircraft components from time to time included in or fitted to the aircraft) by the aircraft’s maintenance schedule is carried out when required by that schedule.

Penalty: 50 penalty units.

(2) A person must not use a class B aircraft in an operation if there is not a maintenance schedule for the aircraft that includes provision for the maintenance of all aircraft components from time to time included in, or fitted to, the aircraft.

Penalty: 50 penalty units.

(3) An offence against subregulation (1) or (2) is an offence of strict liability.

If the maintenance schedule for a class B aircraft is defective or no longer appropriate, the holder of the certificate of registration for the aircraft, within 7 days after becoming aware of the defect, or that the schedule is inappropriate, must report the situation to CASA and take one of the following actions to ensure that the aircraft has a maintenance schedule that is appropriate and not defective:

(a) if the aircraft’s maintenance schedule is the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule:

(i) elect to use the CASA maintenance schedule as the aircraft’s maintenance schedule; or

(ii) under regulation 42J, request CASA or an authorised person to approve a system of maintenance for the aircraft;

(b) if the aircraft’s maintenance schedule is the CASA maintenance schedule:

(i) elect to use the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule as the maintenance schedule for the aircraft; or

(ii) under regulation 42J, request CASA or an authorised person to approve a system of maintenance for the aircraft;

(c) if the aircraft’s maintenance schedule is an approved system of maintenance:

(i) under regulation 42P, request CASA to approve a proposed change to the system; or

(ii) elect to use the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule as the maintenance schedule for the aircraft; or

(iii) elect to use the CASA maintenance schedule as the maintenance schedule for the aircraft.

Penalty: 25 penalty

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 18:22


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 9971638)
”Full Retard” is an allusion to a very funny movie - Tropic Thunder. I commend it to you.

By continuing this ‘discussion’ with the People’s Front of Judean Log Book Statements (another movie allusion), you risk going Full Retard. The People’s Front of Judean Log Book Statements sect believes that the maintenance Truth, and the only maintenance Truth, is embodied in and has its origin in (kneel and avert thine eyes): THE LOGBOOK STATEMENT. Members of this sect communicate secretly with each other by drawing, with their toes, the letters “lbs” in the sand on the beach when members meet. This means the members do not have to risk exposing their adherence.

Failure to worship (kneel and avert thine eyes) THE LOGBOOK STATEMENT is a mortal sin, resulting in regulatory, airworthiness and safety heresies for which thy will be crucified!

Never go Full Retard.

If you didnt have your humpty dumpty moment in time if that wall was a little lower you would still be in the hollow walls of white castle producing the laws and inflicting pain on the aviation community.
You are a hypocrite of the largest type.

Connedrod 28th Nov 2017 18:27


Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9971666)
All that I've said is that I prefer for you to never work on an aircraft that I fly in. It's nothing personal at all. As you know, I'd be more than happy to have a coffee or breakfast with you at my expense.

There appears to be a bit of confusion with PPRuNe names on this thread. I believe that LeadSled and Lead Balloon are indeed different people. I believe Bandalot; Connedrod and yr right to be one and same. (I thank Bend alot for sending me a PM to say that he is not Connedrod.)

Connedrod, I actually do live in Richmond NSW. You?

P.S. Whilst I do know who LeadSled is, he's not my buddy.

I live in a house.
Im guessing you believe in Santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny,lead sled as well

haydnc 29th Nov 2017 00:20

Hartzell recommend 6 month grease if aircraft has low utilization. Do you put this on you MR's?

But the manufacturer SAYS!

Haydn


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