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Bend alot 2nd Nov 2017 22:58

So the Boss of QLD (that has access to her own aircraft) says "that's his problem".

Is this not just a guy trying to get around the QLD to do his job?

So is it our problem if we cant get around QLD to do our jobs unless we get given a free aircraft to use?

Seems to me she is the one that fails to understand.


Serious question - What would happen if all aircraft (operations) below 5700 kg were exempt from RPT requirements?

601 2nd Nov 2017 23:20


So the Boss of QLD (that has access to her own aircraft)
As soon as the election is called, the Govt aircraft should be off limits.
I believe that the incumbent Govt can use the Govt aircraft at taxpayers expense until the the day of the "official policy launch" which could be a week before the election date.

Also the "press gallery" should be finding and paying for their own travel.

Bend alot 3rd Nov 2017 00:02

Better still not have the government aircraft for use of the pollies at any time.


Use the public transport or drive yourself, this is how they loose touch with what the rest of us have to deal with and the real problems of the state.


Might be a few news articles when the press find the truth, as to why there are no aircraft to charter.

TWOTBAGS 3rd Nov 2017 00:11

To answer rammel and others.

Over 6 months ago several operators who had the bulk of the work last QLD election were told that the election will be in the fourth quarter.

If the QLD govt had not cut so much back to the bone the other opportunities these companies have for revenue then they may have been fat in the system re both crew and equipment.

I believe the government has now finally seen the results of their opinion of "right sizing" that companies simply cant afford to have under utilized assets. When they and others simply cut the price point back to zero margin.

The only person who would make anything on it is the broker. Sadly this is the way of the world.

megle2 3rd Nov 2017 02:07

If the Govt Air Wing doesn't start to settle down soon there will be no experienced pilots or engineers left.

StickWithTheTruth 3rd Nov 2017 02:21


Quote:
Moranbah Aerodrome (YMRB) from 01OCT2017 OVERNIGHT PARKING $500.00 FLAT.

Check it out for yourselves if you have a very recent Avdata invoice.

My Avdata invoice arrived in the mail today and says the following for Moranbah:

"Moranbah Aerodrome (YMRB) - $19.20/t, min $19.20; passenger charges apply for aircraft >5,700kg."


Whilst browsing, noticed that Moorabbin charges a flat rate of $90.91 for a hot-air balloon. Interesting.

rutan around 3rd Nov 2017 03:46


My Avdata invoice arrived in the mail today and says the following for Moranbah:

"Moranbah Aerodrome (YMRB) - $19.20/t, min $19.20; passenger charges apply for aircraft >5,700kg."
StickWithTheTruth you should ..... well you know before rushing into print.

Reread my #2 post. It clearly says look under 'Airport parking and usage'. You will find it hidden in among the pages of almost unreadable, close print lines of information.

I'm prepared to make a rather large wager you read your information under 'Airport landing and usage' and not under parking and usage. I can only surmise the information is in two different places in order to trap young players. They is cunning bastards. It would really make your day to wake up to a $500 overnight charge when you only stayed there as a precaution due weather.

StickWithTheTruth 3rd Nov 2017 04:28

Interestingly my invoice is only 2 pages in total (as it usually is), each is double sided, the first page says Statement/Tax invoice, the second has my several landings, charge rate summary (heading) - Airport landings and usage, with BPAY information and page 2 has all the text with charges on both sides. I don't have a "parking and usage" and I never have. Maybe if you don't "park" at an airport overnight, they perhaps don't include the fine print with your invoice. Even the "Airport Charge Rates" section on their site doesn't include parking.

Certainly a trap for the young player... but.... see below for some information:


It may or may not be $500.... it depends on your agreement with the private operator.

Visitors must be BARS approved and after that, an agreement will be reached between the two operators as to a price.

So as for "dropping in" in inclement weather.... that will be an interesting discussion and I guess one of the caveats with PPR :-)

KittyKatKaper 3rd Nov 2017 04:38

My recent (incorrect) Avdata invoice shows the same info for Moranbah as StickWithTheTruth described.

rutan around 3rd Nov 2017 05:37

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Here it is.

golow 3rd Nov 2017 22:39

Try Ballina NSW, $100 to park overnight,$34 to land and $20 per pax movement fee. Overfly now!

Flying Binghi 5th Nov 2017 01:33


Originally Posted by golow (Post 9945958)
Try Ballina NSW, $100 to park overnight,$34 to land and $20 per pax movement fee. Overfly now!

Only $100 for an overnighter. Must be a smaller coal mine airport owner at Ballina... or perhaps the airport owner/operators have a cheaper liability insurance policy and live-in security staff...





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StickWithTheTruth 5th Nov 2017 03:56

I'd hate to park at an airport near a gold mine then!

Flying Binghi 5th Nov 2017 06:04


Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth (Post 9946997)
I'd hate to park at an airport near a gold mine then!

I know that the big city airports are gold mines to their owners, just try parking a car overnight and see what it costs, though I'm not aware of reginal airports owned by any particular gold miner..:)






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Karunch 5th Nov 2017 20:56


Originally Posted by golow (Post 9945958)
Try Ballina NSW, $100 to park overnight,$34 to land and $20 per pax movement fee. Overfly now!

Ref BNA- I believe the $100/ night is for parking on the RPT apron. GA parking $16/ night.


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