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dhavillandpilot 29th Aug 2017 05:06

We can all feel safe in Dubbo now
 
I just flew into Dubbo as PIC. Security guard saw me refuel.

I then go to the terminal awaiting a lift home, so it's beer time.

But here the catch, I have to go thru security: had ASIC card in hand and there is no one here except the 5 security scannering people.

To my surprise the security guard that saw me refuelling was standing there as they not only put my bag thru the machine ( no problem there). BUT then they decide I'm a bomb threat so I get the full bomb swab!!!!!!!

Now sitting here having my beer feeling ever so safe.

This is exactly the type of action that puts people off.

BUT WE ARE ALL SAFE

Back Pressure 29th Aug 2017 05:45

Quota filling ?

Biggles_in_Oz 29th Aug 2017 07:05

Do you have a beard ?

I am seriously considering getting rid of mine because I'm getting fed-up with being 'randomly' selected for swabbing.

Checklist Charlie 29th Aug 2017 07:53

I always make sure my dress boots are well and truly 'nuggeted'.

Sends the sniffer machine into a fit. Confuses the heck out of its 'operator'.

CC

Horatio Leafblower 29th Aug 2017 07:55

I reckon they nail anyone with an ASIC to fill their quotas, because they know we're not really able to make a fuss or ell them to F-off.

Safer that way.

YPJT 29th Aug 2017 07:56

You were subject to screening in order to enter the sterile area. The fact that you were previously airside means nought.

If the screening point is open, anyone wanting to go in has to be screened including those who work in there. The ASIC is NOT a magic AAA pass.

I wonder if the RPT crews here would be happy with the airport letting someone mix with their screened pax just so they could quench their thirst.

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

YPJT 29th Aug 2017 07:56


I reckon they nail anyone with an ASIC to fill their quotas
no such thing

Band a Lot 29th Aug 2017 08:29


Originally Posted by YPJT (Post 9875936)
no such thing


ASIC or quotas?

I recall not long back a very frequent traveller got very annoyed for getting "checked out" at the airport trying to enter the sterile area.

It should not have been Foreign to her if it was random.

YPJT 29th Aug 2017 10:54


Originally Posted by Band a Lot (Post 9875966)
ASIC or quotas?

I recall not long back a very frequent traveller got very annoyed for getting "checked out" at the airport trying to enter the sterile area.

It should not have been Foreign to her if it was random.

Quotas. But there is also a lot of argument that there shouldn't be ASICs. That ain't gonna happen any time soon.

If you are referring to the incident involving the foreign minister, we'll the screener concerned was in very deep shyte because it was established that she was indeed targeted. Not for malicious reasons rather just being a bit star struck.

Band a Lot 29th Aug 2017 11:01


Originally Posted by YPJT (Post 9876095)
Quotas. But there is also a lot of argument that there shouldn't be ASICs. That ain't gonna happen any time soon.

If you are referring to the incident involving the foreign minister, we'll the screener concerned was in very deep shyte because it was established that she was indeed targeted. Not for malicious reasons rather just being a bit star struck.

Has she been random screened since? I have about 3 or 4 times in the few flights I have had since.

Seems Random is only for some and if you don't follow the random scan procedure - you will be in deep shyte- sorry very deep shyte.

Make the rule but don't follow rings bells - bit like citizenship.

YPJT 29th Aug 2017 11:08

I travel pretty regularly. Have had long bouts where I bypassed ETD numerous times. Others periods where I got pinged 4 or 5 times in succession. I haven't yet developed a persecution complex though.

I just returned from USA. Be thankful we don't have 100% body scanners and LAGs for domestic travel here yet.

Band a Lot 29th Aug 2017 11:14

So Trump did & does get body scanned for domestic travel?

YPJT 29th Aug 2017 11:27


Originally Posted by Band a Lot (Post 9876111)
So Trump did & does get body scanned for domestic travel?

I wouldn't have a clue. Depends on what their legislation says.

patty50 29th Aug 2017 21:38

Regional places are always more thorough. If the EDT bloke is standing there doing nothing and you're the only person they'll swab you every single time.

The newer machines flash to them if it selects you for it. So with some it is properly random.

The Banjo 29th Aug 2017 21:57

Were you wearing a collared shirt and tie?

That in it self is sufficient to raise suspicion west of the Blue Mountains :sad:

YPJT 29th Aug 2017 22:43


Originally Posted by patty50 (Post 9876667)

The newer machines flash to them if it selects you for it. So with some it is properly random.

Actually, all ETD points are required to use randomiser and there are numerous ways this occurs. Normal continuous selection also occurs as well.
If the screening point is manned and you are the only person going through, you've got a better chance of winning lotto than not suffering 30 seconds of inconvenience to your valuable time.

dhavillandpilot 29th Aug 2017 23:15

YPJT you missed the point. I had no objections to putting the Nav bag thru the scanner machine that is a give if you want to go into a sterile area.

It was the bomb swab that got me.

I was the only person in the terminal

What makes Dubbo so weird is go down the road to Parkes and there is no screening because Parkes only gets the SAAB but Dubbo get the 400 and the embrarer

wishiwasupthere 29th Aug 2017 23:24

FFS, who cares??

Smile, be polite, maybe even have a quick chat to the person at the machine. It literally takes 30 seconds out of your day.

This all screams of a sense of entitlement. You're a pilot? You've got an ASIC? Big deal. Its not like its a surprise at Dubbo that you have to go through security to get to the cafe. If you don't want to get screened (or heaven forbid, swabbed!!), don't go through security.

Ixixly 29th Aug 2017 23:50

dvahillandpilot, I know this might sound a bit like a Tin Foil Hat Wearing Conspiracy, but what would stop you from flying into a Regional Airport like Dubbo with a bomb in your bag or on your person, walking into the sterile area and handing it off to someone else who then jumps on the flight to say Sydney before jumping onto something much larger within Sydney Airport as they are transferring Domestic?

It sounds a bit loopy but if you don't keep one Sterile Area "Sterile" then you've effectively made any connected Sterile Areas also not "Sterile".

TurboMaggot 30th Aug 2017 00:41

Get checked nearly every day at work in domestic. The cycle is nearly always the same...

Take a bunch of crap (aerosols) out of your bags, waddle through the scanner, watch the (usually female) flight attendant go through barefoot because of the steel arches in their shoes, have a laugh with the security staff because you know them all, facepalm when your flight bag gets flagged because you forgot to take that random sharp object out, repack everything and run back to the crew room to drop off said sharp object, on return see the other crew being bomb scanned while you go through the initial process again, feel guilty for holding everyone up, have another laugh with the airport staff at your previous error while you shove all your belongings quickly back into your flight bag, get flagged for a bomb scan as well, sheepishly laugh at your crew mates while you're waiting for the scanner to confirm you haven't been rolling in cocaine and glycerine, wish the staff a good day, apologise for holding up your crew and head off to the aircraft for some fun in the sun.

Apart from leaving something in your flight bag that shouldn't have been there, the entire process is as usual and routine as "Gear down" - "Selected".


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