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Capt Fathom 14th May 2017 11:38


Most of the foreign registered aircraft that I had involvement with were crewed by Oz pilots who had both Aust and foreign certificates and ratings.
Yep!
Friend of mine flys a N Registered jet. Aussie owned, Aussie crewed, Aussie based.

josephfeatherweight 14th May 2017 22:50


Friend of mine flys a N Registered jet. Aussie owned, Aussie crewed, Aussie based.
Indeed - plenty of us do just that.

megan 15th May 2017 00:10


The other is an onshore booking Darwin - London (sorry I did not pick a specific airport) and minimum cost is $3,660
You're not looking at the right web site. $1,369 with Philippine and $1,776 with Singapore early August.

Lead Balloon 15th May 2017 05:05

How can an "Aussie owned" aircraft be on the N register?

I'm guessing the Aussie "owners" are really the beneficiaries of a trust, the trustee of which is a U.S incorporated entity?

josephfeatherweight 15th May 2017 05:14


the trustee of which is a U.S incorporated entity?
That is correct.

Lead Balloon 15th May 2017 05:17

So the "owner" is the US entity, not the Aussies.

josephfeatherweight 15th May 2017 05:21

Yeah, it's like the house (some) of us live in - we don't really own it, the bank does...

Lead Balloon 15th May 2017 06:09

Errrrm, no. Your name is on the title documents to the land on which your house was built, and therefore you are the legal owner of the land and house annexed to it. The bank registers a charge that prevents dealings without its mortgage being discharged.

An aircraft legally owned by a US trust entity is legally owned by the US trust entity. Otherwise the FAA would not allow the aircraft to remain on the N register. The Aussies are beneficial owners.

josephfeatherweight 15th May 2017 06:18

Yes - you are of course correct.


How can an "Aussie owned" aircraft be on the N register?

I'm guessing the Aussie "owners" are really the beneficiaries of a trust, the trustee of which is a U.S incorporated entity?
Sounds like you already knew the answer to all that?!

Lead Balloon 15th May 2017 06:26

I was merely trying to tease out why it ain't quite so simple for Aussies to own N-registered aircraft.

Capt Fathom 15th May 2017 07:23

Meanwhile....
Back at the Ranch!

Band a Lot 15th May 2017 12:14


Originally Posted by megan (Post 9771219)
You're not looking at the right web site. $1,369 with Philippine and $1,776 with Singapore early August.


To keep it simple I only used Qantas.

The Qantas Singapore price.

&

The Qantas Australia price.

It is similar but greater in the price difference in buying the likes of a iphone.

But that is common knowledge by most pilots and most long haul by the phones "offshore" even if they have battery problems!!!!

Bedder believeit 15th May 2017 12:41

Bizjetaus are you confused?

Tankengine 15th May 2017 15:03


Originally Posted by Band a Lot (Post 9771678)
To keep it simple I only used Qantas.

The Qantas Singapore price.

&

The Qantas Australia price.

It is similar but greater in the price difference in buying the likes of a iphone.

But that is common knowledge by most pilots and most long haul by the phones "offshore" even if they have battery problems!!!!

You do realise Qantas doesn't even fly some of the routes you mention?
Start talking codesharing and prices from different countries and of course you will get differences.
Try a travel agent forum for answers. ;)

Left 270 15th May 2017 22:11

So if I understand this correctly, if i book my next European holiday with Q booked in Singapore, I'll get a job with an Oz based bizjet?

josephfeatherweight 15th May 2017 22:55


So if I understand this correctly, if i book my next European holiday with Q booked in Singapore, I'll get a job with an Oz based bizjet?
Yes. As long as the bizjet is owned by a US entity.

Ixixly 16th May 2017 00:33

Left 270 and joseph, also the Beneficial Owners of the Bizjet also have to be Australian.

josephfeatherweight 16th May 2017 00:50

I'm starting to feel sorry for the OP... :(

Ixixly 16th May 2017 01:22

I feel like he got his information AND some entertainment as well joseph :D

rodney rude 16th May 2017 01:27

Ive got a red motorbike


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