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Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9855698)

Never found a crack bolt but have found damage and corroded bath tub fittings which have required changing in beech wing spars . If you look at your beach manual chap 5 time limits. It states intinal requirements for component change and then states after that ypu may make your own times depending on what you find. B200 damage their cables at the aft fuse area. Once again leadie seams to rhink he is god and blames casa and manufacturers for looking after the simple folk.
Then you relize that casa is now full of ex military bring all the 6 poeple to look into a pannel before you put it back on type inspections. They hzve no idea about civilian aviation and now idea about sfa. Funny leadie ex mill and so is gerry. Get the piture yet !

FAA also state a experienced Mech is better than the Manual! but not legal in Australia to use that LAME experience, so while I don't recall reading that in chapter 5 - it was not permitted at my local CASA zone to be "flexible" on the 5 year unless I made the bolts and had my own approval for that.

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Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9855698)

Then you relize that casa is now full of ex military bring all the 6 poeple to look into a pannel before you put it back on type inspections. They hzve no idea about civilian aviation and now idea about sfa. Funny leadie ex mill and so is gerry. Get the piture yet !

I'm ex-RAAF and quite proud of that feat. (What were RAAF recruiting thinking?)

I've never met anyone who admits to being Lead Balloon. (I suspect that if I'd worked with him/her, I would have always hated him/her.)

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Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9855887)

EX RAAF generally leads to 2 things competent or not but with the same tickets! so needs to be worked out.

Willing or not to learn non RAAF stuff and be productive in a commercial environment.

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Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9855887)

You should learn or remember your own replys. Yes we know your ex raaf. You not replied to my pm after you thought you found out my location. What you think i would have given you that straight up. Drrrrrrrrrr. Shows how untrustworthy you must be ?

As for the manual its legal to do it if you can show what was found. Casa cant go against what the manual states. Only if they bring an AD in to go against it. Other wise the manuals not worth the $20k a year we have to pay to keep them updated.

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Originally Posted by Connedrod (Post 9856323)

As for the manual its legal to do it if you can show what was found. Casa cant go against what the manual states. Only if they bring an AD in to go against it.

Yes they can, they can do as they wish, and then get it somehow supported by that doggey legal team.

Have you got the cash to fight them is the correct statement.

Cant go agaisnt
Done iaw mm chapter 5

Clearly states what you can do . Unless an AD states something different or the lbs states something different its legal.

I have in an email from a "team leader" from CASA saying that

Not to follow the REGS on the IAW stuff - do it here (against the regs) CASA accepts this as a standard practice.

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Originally Posted by Band a Lot (Post 9861548)

I have in an email from a "team leader" from CASA saying that

Not to follow the REGS on the IAW stuff - do it here (against the regs) CASA accepts this as a standard practice.

I am not sure about this. A certification of rectification, in my understanding, has to state reference, values attained etc.
Using cable replacement as our maintenance required you would need to state "replaced IAW manual and chapter, rigging check carried out IAW manual and chapter, degrees of deflection (if applicable) attained, serial number of special tooling used and reference to the CAR 42G inspection. "

But that is not what the REG's say or require!

And what certification? final as in generally a logbook?

What must be included in a final certification?
4.4 If certifications for completion of stages of maintenance are made in the documents kept by the person carrying out the maintenance as a record of the carrying out of the maintenance, a final certification must:

**Ok so this is keeping the worksheets for required time and doing a logbookentry!

(a) include a brief description of the type of maintenance carried out;and
* All primary flight cables replaced with new.

(b) be signed by the person making the certification; and
*sign your name.

(c) include the licence number, airworthiness authority number orcertificate of approval number of the person making the certification; and
* 123456

(d) set out the time in service of the aircraft since new; and
*523 TTIS

(e) if the person making the certification is an employee--state the nameof the person's employer and the employer's certificate of approval number,licence number or airworthiness authority number; and
*if applicable

(f) set out details of the approved maintenance data used to carry outthe maintenance; and
* Manufactures of aircraft data

(g) if an exemption from or variation to a requirement is in force under regulation 42ZSin relation to the aircraft--set out details of the exemption or variation; and
*if applicable

(h) if, in the course of carrying out the maintenance, the weight orbalance of the aircraft has been varied--include a record of the variation; and

* Not applicable
(j) if a special inspection was carried out--set out what was found as aresult of the inspection; and

* Not applicable
(k) if, in the course of carrying out the maintenance, an inspectionusing a non-destructive testing method was carried out--set out:

*Not applicable
(i) the non-destructive testing method used in carrying out the inspection;and
(ii) the procedure used in carrying out the inspection; and
(iii) what was found as a result of the inspection; and

(l) include a list of airworthiness directives complied with in thecourse of carrying out the maintenance and a statement setting out any defectsfound in complying with those directives; and
* Not applicable if a separate entry was made for AD/GEN/87 has been made forthe removal.

(m) if, in the course of carrying out the maintenance, an aircraft component:
*Not applicable

(i) that has had maintenance carried out on it; and
(ii) that was supplied to the person carrying out the maintenance byanother person;
was fitted--set out the number of the document that covered the supply of thecomponent in accordance with subregulation 42W(4); and

(n) if, in the course of carrying out the maintenance, a time-lifedaircraft component was fitted or replaced:
(i) identify the component and that includes (if applicable) the partnumber and serial number of the component; and

* If classed as a component and not a part** They are now lifed so a P/N willbe required - dont recall them having a S/N.
(ii) list the airworthiness directives that have been complied with inrelation to the component; and

*Not applicable
(iii) if the component was supplied to the person carrying out themaintenance by another person--set out the number of the document that coveredthe supply of the component in accordance with subregulation 42W(4); and
(iv) if the component has not been overhauled--set out the time inservice of, or the number of cycles completed by, the component since new; and
(v) if the component has been overhauled--set out the time in service of,or number of cycles completed by, the component since its most recent overhaul;and
(vi) if the component is an engine--set out the test performance figuresof the engine; and
(p) if, in the course of carrying out the maintenance, an aircraftmaterial:
(i) that has had maintenance carried out on it; and
(ii) that was supplied to the person by another person; and
(iii) that is not a fluid;
was used--set out the number of the document that covered the supply of thematerial in accordance with subregulation 42X(1); and

* a GRN number
(q) identify the documents kept by the person carrying out themaintenance as a record of the carrying out of the maintenance; and

* Often a job number
(s) include the date on which the certification was made.

*15/8/17

CAR 42G is a separate inspection (maintenance task) that needs to be certified for in the same way as applicable.

This bit will need to be changed:-

(f) set out details of the approved maintenance data used to carry out the maintenance; and
* Manufactures of aircraft data

TO

(f) set out details of the approved maintenance data used to carry out the maintenance; and
* I.A.W CASA instructions.

At the risk of interrupting consenting adults enjoying their circle-jerk, has anyone heard any rumours as to the date by which CASA will make a decision whether to issue the proposed amended AD?

Leady history shows these are last minute and even post date announcements.

So with that we can expect announcement last week of December 2017 or 2nd week of Jan 2018.

Given many will have already changed the cables, again a PPE from the regulator.

The amended AD has now been issued, effective 1 November 2017: http://services.casa.gov.au/airworth...EN/GEN-087.pdf

As a result, that which would have been dangerously criminal on 1 January 2018 doesn’t become dangerously criminal until 1 November 2018. That provides an additional 11 months for the various GA representative bodies to get their **** in one pile to get the AD repealed.

Annual done this week. Cables all good. Back in the air.

Which was precisely what happened with the cables whose terminations failed, thus ‘justifying’ the AD. Signed off as “cables all good”. Back in the air!

From 1 November 2018 it will be even ‘better’: Cables signed off as: “all good”. Bill to aircraft owner: “much bigger”. Safety: “reduced”.

Brilliant!