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guni83 13th Apr 2017 04:27

Virgin Australia Cadet program
 
Hi all,

I hear Virgin Australia is opening up their cadet program later this month.
They have advanced program for current CPL holders and I think the program is planned to start from October this year.

Does anyone have insight and know if they will consider to shortlist a non CPL holder who is in integrated CPL course currently with the completion period before the start date of the program?

Thanks

Flyboy1987 13th Apr 2017 04:39


Originally Posted by guni83 (Post 9738425)
Hi all,

I hear Virgin Australia is opening up their cadet program later this month.
They have advanced program for current CPL holders and I think the program is planned to start from October this year.

Does anyone have insight and know if they will consider to shortlist a non CPL holder who is in integrated CPL course currently with the completion period before the start date of the program?

Thanks

They will have 1000's to choose from so I highly doubt it.
Who knows though?
Good luck

dr dre 13th Apr 2017 05:23

Only one way to know for sure. Submit an application, and if they deem your application suitable they'll get in touch with you to start the selection process and you can find out then.

notabove500 14th Apr 2017 05:17


Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 (Post 9738431)
They will have 1000's to choose from so I highly doubt it.
Who knows though?
Good luck

1000's is excessive. There will be a smaller pool of people with a CPL, but not MECIR who fit Virgin's profile.

Albert Einstein 19th Apr 2017 08:50


Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 (Post 9738431)
They will have 1000's to choose from so I highly doubt it.
Who knows though?
Good luck

I too think 1000s might be a big number. Experience has taught us in the past that nobody really knows what these recruiters are looking for, maybe just girls, maybe just boys, maybe its just a survey, all I know is I got a ppl and a few hours short of a cpl and i'm going all in, the only thing i got to lose is nothing.

TurboProp2120 19th Apr 2017 13:25


Originally Posted by Albert Einstein (Post 9745243)
I too think 1000s might be a big number. Experience has taught us in the past that nobody really knows what these recruiters are looking for, maybe just girls, maybe just boys, maybe its just a survey, all I know is I got a ppl and a few hours short of a cpl and i'm going all in, the only thing i got to lose is nothing.

Good on you Albert Einstein - looks like a good program, but expensive. Lodging costs alone seem to be easy $30k, on top of course costs. Do they pay you throughout the course?

I must say the guaranteed job at the end is a good lure.

Good Luck! :ok:

mikewil 31st May 2017 02:52

Is anyone still waiting to hear back after submitting their videos?

ACMS 31st May 2017 09:34

Probably candidates with many more hours than you. Go get 1,500 hours then try again.

Tui12 31st May 2017 11:46

Hours not relevant as you can't have greater than 750 TT even for the "advanced" Cadetship

Jbrownie 31st May 2017 13:47

8 hours solo? Nearly beat my 6.6 mate

outofwhack 31st May 2017 16:41

Nearly beat my 2.9 hours to solo

Tui12 31st May 2017 20:50

The point I am trying to make smart arses is that it doesn’t meet their criteria so I wonder exactly what that is.

Tankengine 1st Jun 2017 00:03


Originally Posted by Tui12 (Post 9788670)
The point I am trying to make smart arses is that it doesn’t meet their criteria so I wonder exactly what that is.

Possibly over qualified. Who knows? Perhaps you annoyed someone at the interview.

FLGOFF 1st Jun 2017 08:37

Impossible to say what their criteria is, they set lower minimums in order to allow people with less experience make up for it in other areas. More hours doesn't automatically mean better and they know that. + Hours to first solo in itself is irrelevant.

FPDO 1st Jun 2017 23:54

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Tui12 2nd Jun 2017 00:18

There was no interview. Girl I know got the same email. She has an instructor rating as well. Maybe they are basing it on looks although she is a lot better looking than me.

I wouldn't not mind if people got the chance to interview or testing but to not even be offered that when you have everything they need and more, is surprising.

Must be because I'm Kiwi/English will have to learn how to speak through my nose next time its for an Australian job ;)

wishiwasupthere 2nd Jun 2017 00:55

Maybe they detected the sense of self entitlement coming through.

puff 2nd Jun 2017 06:09

When you have about 6 positions and probably 1000 applicants, everyone that hits submit and gets through has the 'minimums'.

Quite simply with those sort of numbers above, thats why they aren't interested in people that are 'close' to a CPL or any other way of not meeting the requirement. Not really possible to interview everyone in this situation who meets the minimum....apply for other in demand jobs like firefighter too and sometimes you just don't make the grade to go further. As to why, one makes it over another ?!?!?!

Remember this cadetship was also advertised for internal staff before going external, they won't take substandard candidates, but there are lot of very qualified and capable people in the ranks within the company too.

mikewil 2nd Jun 2017 08:53

It seems as if the program heavily favours females as well.

Take a look at the previous class that was a run a few years ago:

http://www.flyfta.com/wp-content/uploads/DSC_0682A.jpg

You can see from the photo that out of 8 cadets, 5 were women. You can't seriously tell me that 60% of the applicants were women. Last time I looked at the statistics, less than 10% of commercial pilots licences in Australia are issued to women. I would think applicant numbers in this program would be similar. You would therefore have a far higher chance of getting through just by not being a bloke.

This is the problem with companies trying to use quotas to rectify perceived injustices. There are less female pilots simply because less women want to fly, just like there are less male nurses and teachers because less men want to go down those career paths.

Shame on Virgin.

Flyboy1987 2nd Jun 2017 11:09


Originally Posted by mikewil (Post 9790005)
It seems as if the program heavily favours females as well.

Take a look at the previous class that was a run a few years ago:

http://www.flyfta.com/wp-content/uploads/DSC_0682A.jpg

You can see from the photo that out of 8 cadets, 5 were women. You can't seriously tell me that 60% of the applicants were women. Last time I looked at the statistics, less than 10% of commercial pilots licences in Australia are issued to women. I would think applicant numbers in this program would be similar. You would therefore have a far higher chance of getting through just by not being a bloke.

This is the problem with companies trying to use quotas to rectify perceived injustices. There are less female pilots simply because less women want to fly, just like there are less male nurses and teachers because less men want to go down those career paths.

Shame on Virgin.

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