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First multi job opportunities. ICUS? Private ops?
Hi all,
I'm passionate about aviation and am looking for the next step, hopefully into multi or single engine charter with opportunity for twin progression in the future. I have CPL, about 800 hours TT, FIR with grade 2 training endorsement, MECIR, a small amount of 206/210 time, and about 30 hours twin. I have approximately 550 hours instructional time and would be interested in moving into charter or charter/instruction jobs. I have a can-do attitude, learn quickly and put 100% into whatever I do and am prepared to move wherever I need to for the right opportunity. I'm considering an opportunity to move to PNG for an offer to fly single turbine but with no twin progression. Thoughts on this would be appreciated also. Is anyone here aware of current multi job opportunities for guys with my experience? Also, due to my low multi time what is your experience with gaining ICUS and how is it viewed by employers in terms of increasing total multi time? I'm also a registered nurse (super flexible agency work) so casual flying work would be no problem. Thanks for any input - greatly appreciated. Cheers |
Originally Posted by ReubenM
(Post 9737492)
Hi all,
I'm passionate about aviation and am looking for the next step, hopefully into multi or single engine charter with opportunity for twin progression in the future. I have CPL, about 800 hours TT, FIR with grade 2 training endorsement, MECIR, a small amount of 206/210 time, and about 30 hours twin. I have approximately 650 hours instructional time and would be interested in moving into charter or charter/instruction jobs. I have a can-do attitude, learn quickly and put 100% into whatever I do and am prepared to move wherever I need to for the right opportunity. I'm considering an opportunity to move to PNG for an offer to fly single turbine but with no twin progression. Thoughts on this would be appreciated also. Is anyone here aware of job current multi opportunities for guys with my experience? Also, due to my low multi time what is your experience with gaining ICUS and how is it viewed by employers in terms of increasing total multi time? I'm also a registered nurse (super flexible agency work) so casual flying work would be no problem. Thanks for any input - greatly appreciated. Cheers, Reuben Mowbray |
Troppo speaks good advice.
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Further...no twin progression.... I guess you are looking at one of the highlands PAC750 operators. Whilst there may be no internal progression, you will end up in the left seat of a twin otter in a couple of years with another operator so don't worry about it.
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Pack the car, say bye to your mates and matettes, have a long heartfelt chat with the significant other and drive to Darwin or other northern destination where there is very little flight training compared with the large amount of single and multi charter and rpt. With the movement and recruiting going on at the moment I'd say you would find something before too long.
Having said that you will have to be prepared for a prolonged wait just in case. There are plenty of old threads on here that deal with your issue, nothing I've seen recently though! Nothing will happen if you stay where you are, wishing and sending CVs. You've got to have the balls to get up and go! Cheers and good luck. |
But.... there have been plenty that have posted on here about how they headed to north Aus and found nowork or prospects, spent cash getting around and on living, lived in their tent or car and come back broker then when they left !!
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You will be lucky to go straight onto a twin gig with a charter company with those figures. If it's anything like it was a few years ago there are usually numerous guys in a company with 1-2years service and 1000+hrs still waiting for a crack on the twin. Hardy Aviation should be your first thought, followed by any other operator on the Darwin field.
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Quote " Simple. Ditch the missus and go to PNG. It's the best career move you will ever make "
Could also be the worst life decision you ever made Two years flying a single with the chance of LHS on a Otter all in PNG, no thank you I'd keep the instruction side going, if your good you will be noticed. Within 3 years ( same period if you took the PNG option ) who knows what opportunities will come your way |
So nothing has changed downunder. 25 years ago the advice was the same. Go North, go the the back end of nowhere and camp on some bugger's doorstep until he gives you a job. Then, once you have a one, be prepared to be told that with less than 1,000 hours you won't have sufficient experience to fly a twin, with less than five thousand enough for a turbo-prop and forget a jet altogether.
The important thing you have Reuben is a nursing qualification. With that you can afford to live and buy some time. Best of luck. PM ps. When you do get there, the easiest thing you'll ever fly will be a jet. Bigger = easier. Then next easiest is a turbo-prop and the most difficult of all, a piston twin. |
Pit down, make that the last 40 years
773, up the front of a ATR72 in PNG, better than an Otter I'll admit, but ........ |
You need 1000 PIC- 500 M/E PIC - 1000 Night-3000 M/E PIC - 3000 Jet - 3000 Wide-body PIC- believe it or not you can eventually get to there- only took me until I was 46 in the end- but then the question is 'what type are you current on?'. ;) There will always be some-thing you don't have for one particular job-unless you are connected. It just means its not the right job for you. Having said that the Nursing Qualification is golden to you in terms of relocating and doing Agency work to survive until-and after- you get hired to fly. Moving somewhere that has a lot of activity will be the key to your progression now-there is no other way unless you get into a Cadet scheme.
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Put your CV in with Air NZ for the Link carriers. Wasn't that long ago they were taking folks with 500 hours.
Beats living in a tent up north or PNG... and you'll be straight onto the Q300 or ATR72. More and more Aussies have crossed the ditch in recent years... some to work for Air NZ/Link others (ironically) to work for Australian Airlines. |
Sorry for the late response. Thankyou all for your contributions. Deejaypee, I can resonate with your advice that sending resumes out from your desk at home is futile the majority of times. I have moved states to get the instructor job I have now and am ready to go where I need to and 'camp it up' so I'm ready to go when an opportunity arises.
I'm hearing a cross section of opinions regarding PNG. Would like to hear more from people who have been up there. Clear to land, yes, you are exactly right. So far nursing has been very flexible in allowing me to be absolutely as flexible as I need to be for work. Ideally I'd love to stay in Australia and moving rural doesn't phase me having spent most of my life in rural areas, so I'm keen to see what's around locally and further up in the NT/QLD/WA. If the job had instruction as well as charter that'd be ideal. |
Originally Posted by ElZilcho
(Post 9740888)
Put your CV in with Air NZ for the Link carriers. Wasn't that long ago they were taking folks with 500 hours.
Beats living in a tent up north or PNG... and you'll be straight onto the Q300 or ATR72. More and more Aussies have crossed the ditch in recent years... some to work for Air NZ/Link others (ironically) to work for Australian Airlines. |
Originally Posted by troppo
(Post 9741117)
Tongue firmly in cheek I call bull**** to that. Kiwis get a bad name crossing the 'dutch' and taking jobs from Aussies, how dare they pinch jobs at home from kiwis.:}
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Originally Posted by ElZilcho
(Post 9741128)
Well if the Aussies would jut put up their own scaffolding.... oh wait, wrong thread :E
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there have been plenty that have posted on here about how they headed to north Aus and found nowork or prospects, spent cash getting around and on living, lived in their tent or car and come back broker then when they left !! |
Originally Posted by 773
(Post 9738870)
Or you could go to PNG, get on the single then after 1-2 years you could find yourself with invaluable local knowledge & up the front of an ATR 72.
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