Jetstar pilot package
 

Would any Jetstar pilot both Captain and F.O but more F.O care to outline the starting salaries for JQ pilots, per diems and flight benefits.

I have been trying to find the information but have not been able to do so. Im not looking at cadetships or any of that nonsense, just direct entry F.O.

Also are there any contract negotiations going on at JQ?:ok:

Thanks BR.:ok:

How long to hold F/O 787 ?

You were 'unable to do so'? A google search of jetstar pilot eba heralds the document above as the first link.

No offence but if you're that reliant on others that you cant make the simplest of searches then im not sure jq is for you.

Given how reliant JQ is on QF, sounds like he or she is perfect!!

sheesh lighten up...what is with pilots being so far up their own arses, any time someone asks for help they get ridiculed.

Does your wife feed you too mate? Your QF quip is lost on me but from an operational viewpoint, in a lcc, you're expected to be somewhat self reliant.

What's with pilots these days, any time someone doesn't coddle them they get teary.

DUS

Prune is not quite the troll fest you're looking for either, ease up. If you've got nothing nice to say why bother hitting your keypad.

Luggage, in addition to the EBA details that Brakerider provided the FO's are all consistently doing max hours, certainly in SYD and MEL, some of the other ports where the flying is a lot less interesting things are a bit more cyclical but there will always be overtime if you want to hunt it down.

As far as a 787 window seat goes, it really is going to depend on whether the commercial case is there for expansion. The company will rightfully keep these cards very close to their chest.

With 11 787 (currently) and three indefinitely deferred orders and approximately 65 320/321's between JANZ (a lot of Australians are sent across the ditch to fill in) you can see the wait might be getting close to ten years, perhaps more. That's going to blow out a bit more than in the past due to them now hiring SO for the 787, up side though is that when you get a window seat you will not also be asked to be a second officer every other duty.

Long wait for commands too unless you go to New Zealand where it is possibly closer to 5 years. This seems to be partly because the flying is less interesting and also because the terms are not as favourable as ANZ.

I'm pretty happy to be here, it's not perfect but very,very good.

Hope that helps.

That's funny Willie, flying for Jetstar NZ which includes the Tasman, Fiji and ports like Queenstown along with the terrain and weather is 'less interesting' than flying around Australia........classic Aussie thinking. Jetstar NZ conditions are significantly closer to Air NZ than Jetstar Oz is to Qantas.

Its sad that the term 'troll' has been misappropriated by those ignorant of its meaning. The intent in trolling is to provoke a response. I'm trying to do the exact opposite.

Interesting too that you make no comment when countless threads are shut down for the same very reason that I'm complaining here. Easily searched subjects rehashed endlessly by people too lazy to use the search function.

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-...adetships.html

So why bother? For the same reason endless 'which flying school' threads are shut down. Hopefully people get the message and stop doing it.

Or maybe even use the search function! (found using the incredibly complex search term of "jetstar pay")

http://www.pprune.org/9489485-post65.html

:ugh:

Hi Ollie,

Fair point Ollie, it is of course subjective but I guess I'm referring to progression opportunities such as the 787, but yes fair point.

I guess it's also that we can operate over there whenever they're short but the reverse can't be said as I'm sure you are aware.

I'm also going by the turnover rate of both LHS and RHS NZ pilots, nice blokes, but they don't seem to want to stick around in large part, would you agree?

Times have changed. Ask the opposition pilots what they think.

DUS

Bite me. If you not interestedin helping fellow aviators with a smile on your face Im not sure aviation is for you.

If somebody asked me a question like that I would gladly provide the information for them without a smart **** comment or dig at them.

If it bothers you to answer or help then don't, just keep you gob shut.

Get a life dude!!

Willie Nelson

Thank you. Great info, much appreciated. To be honest I have no interest in the 787, prefer to stayon the bus.

DUS take note on how not to be a tool.

Bet you were not the sunny kid in class were you!!

Just curious, why can't the NZ guys and gals operate in Oz? Seems a bit odd it works the other way round. Open skies, TTMRA and all that jazz.

Hmmm..thanks for your interesting take on the meaning of troll..nope, you're still a troll.

27/09,

What you're referring to are essentially trade agreements. The restriction on which pilot group can operate in which aircraft relates to the Fair Work Act.

Kind of with DUS on this one...
 

The comment was:

From my POV that was a pretty low-level comment, and IMHO not that far wrong.


Luggage

If that comment causes you so much offence and hurt to respond with

Then I really doubt that aviation is for you dude!. Life as an adult can be pretty tough, and life as a pilot is harder. If you don't have a tough hide you wont get very far.



DIVOSH!

Timeless comedy -- even 38 years later it still accurately describes a bunch of pilots in a forum:

https://youtu.be/WboggjN_G-4

Willie Nelson.

It has nothing to do with trade agreements. It's to do with the Australian EBA. If Jetstar could, they'd employ everybody under the NZ agreement and roster them through Australia. They'd do this in a heartbeat because it's cheaper! The only thing stopping them is the union(s) and the EBA.

If they operate a domestic Australian route and aircraft, they need to be on the Australian seniority list and paid the Australian rate under the eba.