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Far Canel 17th Feb 2017 05:09

Guys just noticed on AFAP.Skytrans looking for dash drivers, type rated, 1000TT 500multi/cmd. The website says cpl and multi IR . English level 4?

Maybe just casting the bet a bit further? Or may a Brisbane base might be attractive to special mission pilot in Broome ect, or maybe just the th way it is at the moment?

Capt Fathom 17th Feb 2017 10:34

Far Canel
Any chance you could translate that last post into some form of language and grammar that makes sense to us old fashioned types out here! :confused:

Far Canel 17th Feb 2017 22:55

Sure Captain Fathom
The Air Federation of Air Pilots(AFAP)had advertised a position with Skytrans for a F/O(First Officer) position on a dash 8 in Brisbane.

The company website minimums are:
1. CPL(A)
2. IPC
3. English Language level 4

How ever the AFAP post
Total time 1000
Dash 8 Type Rating
500 multi-engine command
Experience on type
100 night

So as to can see they have increased there requirements.
My question was are they casting their need a bit further, because there might be quiet a few Dash 8 pilots around looking(I.e. Cobham special mission).

Far Canel 19th Feb 2017 08:49

Roundhouse that's not bad going,must be happy with that though. Just at a BBQ today with a few Aviation mentors, which I have to say are hard to come by in this industry, saying exactly the same thing.

As Dehg 5776 said above,Rex are loosing a few. All skippers and checkers(even worst). They have been there before and I am sure they will work it all out. But at some stage upgrades for F/O and/or cadets will sort that out in the long run.
And GA Ect ect :ok: Chin up and the sun will still rise in the morning

abvpilot 23rd Jun 2017 16:36


Originally Posted by roundhouse (Post 9680732)
Yeah your not the only one in this boat. I had hours come over a period of two and a half years leaving me with 1700TT but all single and no multi due to the nature of the previous company. At such a dead end and nervous that only having having high single time makes me ineligible for some operators... I guess you have to keep the applications rolling and make sure not to stay stationary. I have found that is key to keep morale from being low. Good luck to you mate, your not the only one in this boat!

Oh God.. I'm also in the same boat as you both. Dead end at current company with only singles, 1400 hrs and the struggle to find another company that is actually hiring. Applications flying out every week, camping on AFAP day and night (for the past year) and getting email replies that either they're not hiring, not enough twin hours/night/ifr is quite demoralising.

What do you mean by having high single time makes you ineligible for some operators?
I've also heard of this, but unsure of what the upper single engine time limits are?

Wiggley 24th Jun 2017 03:02


Applications flying out every week, camping on AFAP day and night (for the past year) and getting email replies that either they're not hiring, not enough twin hours/night/ifr is quite demoralising.
Have you bothered leaving the safety of your computer and actually presented yourself to a potential operator?

There is heaps of movement right now fact.
There is quick progression to a twin in companies that have a large twin fleet, fact.
Most jobs are not advertised on AFAP (or anywhere else), they are word of mouth or there to be hoovered up by someone ready to pounce locally, fact.
Unless you are there in person the chances of you getting a twin gig are slim at best, yet another fact.

ga_trojan 24th Jun 2017 07:36


What do you mean by having high single time makes you ineligible for some operators?
I've also heard of this, but unsure of what the upper single engine time limits are
It's usually operators with twins who deem your experience as a threat, especially so with SE Turbine time. What it means to them is that you are only good for a few hundred hours as the combined SE turbine and twin time ticks all the boxes for regionals, so you will probably be out of there ASAP.

Jetdream 24th Jun 2017 13:06

I haven't been in the GA scene for a few years now, but with all the majors in Australia and overseas now hiring, I thought the progression would almost be at an all time high.

I'd say high single time is not a disadvantage if you don't expect to jump straight into a twin. Be prepared to spend another year in a single with a company that has good twin progression e.g. Hardy's, Hinterland, Broome Air Services etc.
Chase it and most importantly network as much as possible.
It will happen.

wheels_down 25th Jun 2017 03:58

The majors are very selective with past experience. Jetstar has a thing about hiring from Rex, Tiger takes a lot from Qlink and Virgin are just too hard (take ages to make up who they want).


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