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Looking forward to going in tomorrow, expecting it to be busy but it's the only day my mate and his son can come in. Any tips on what to do to get there etc from those who have been?
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Great work from the ATC
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The show was worth the flight from Sydney and the 118km drive from Mt Eliza where I'm staying with mates just to laugh at that Raptor commentary. |
I think the same F-16 guy did Ohakea last weekend too, I couldn't help but laugh! "The F-Sixteeeeeeeeeeeen Fighting Falcooon!"
Unfortunately the airworthy Mirage restoration was stopped a while back, I think because of money. |
Yeah Xac we laughed at that too. Fvck the F-35 was loud - bloody brilliant. Nothing like a climb away from the crowd on full burner - you could feel the grandstand shake.
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The Mirage, Fantome and KiwiBoyZac referred to (A3-42) spent several years at YMEN in a hangar. More recently, it has become part of the HARS static collection at YWOL.
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Just looked at the Airshow website. Not impressive. I was led to believe the SAAA was exhibiting, also Bert Flood imports, I wanted to talk Rotax to someone, specifically alleged multiple gearbox failures in the 912iS and maybe a look at the new turbo engine. Neither company is mentioned as an exhibitor. Sunfish - you had your eyes closed dude... although in your defence, maybe you went too early and they weren't set up yet. |
Antonov, I asked crew, seems the yanks chartered them to transport their Apache !
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 9692762)
went today, spent three hours there. Beautifully organised with meticulous attention to detail. valuable content for a GA pilot? Zero. boring as bat****. highlights? Diamond DA62 looks nice but with the ugliest looking engine nacelles i've ever seen for their diesel engines. loved walking inside an Antonov again, i wonder how they will pay for the fuel to get home this time?
trade show full of salesmen sucking up to the airforce. Garmin display pathetic. Best stand? Bureau of meteorology, informative and friendly. they gave me a pen! i left about 1pm, the flying display was a bore. only another two hours drive to get home. |
Did anyone spot Marice Payne's glistening Growler...?
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F-35 JSF CANCELLED flying display on Sunday.
Apparently due to storms around Amberley and the fact that these 2 units do not yet have lightning protection. RAAF release Flying Operations - Royal Australian Air Force The display on Saturday was tame, to say the least. High speed/Low speed passes only |
I see..
Australia buys outrageously expensive but fairly useless military aircraft. Then the Yanks dictate when and where we fly them in our own country. So the poor little darlings can't fly in thunderstorms. What a bad joke! |
Hang on:
F-35 couldn't fly TODAY due to thunderstorms 1400km away and so it's going home TOMORROW? "Due to weather in Amberley the F-35A will now depart Avalon Air Show on Monday, 6 March rather than Sunday, 5 March as previously scheduled." If it sounds like BS, and it smells like BS, it's most likely BS. |
All these aircraft need the ALIS to land. Willytown isn't set up with the ALIS system. Avalon has the only portable unit available at the moment.
Without ALIS, no gen 5 aircraft can operate. Amberley has it from having the later gen Hornets. Hence bad weather, no take off. |
Originally Posted by thunderbird five
(Post 9696252)
Hang on:
F-35 couldn't fly TODAY due to thunderstorms 1400km away and so it's going home TOMORROW? "Due to weather in Amberley the F-35A will now depart Avalon Air Show on Monday, 6 March rather than Sunday, 5 March as previously scheduled." If it sounds like BS, and it smells like BS, it's most likely BS. |
I see..
So an enemy disables the ground based ALIS system while our F-35A's are airborne. What happens then? The more one finds out about the JSF, the more one realises what a complete waste of taxpayers' money these aircraft have become. They'll make the Seasprite helicopters look like a tiny waste of money. |
Originally Posted by Jabberwocky82
(Post 9696273)
All these aircraft need the ALIS to land. Willytown isn't set up with the ALIS system. Avalon has the only portable unit available at the moment.
Without ALIS, no gen 5 aircraft can operate. Amberley has it from having the later gen Hornets. Hence bad weather, no take off. The press release reads like they are in Avalon, hence why the above makes no sense. |
They are at Avalon. The only other place they can land is Amberley, which was scratched due to weather.
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Just read elsewhere... that's not it.
The US only approved for X number of flights and they did not approve for a flight from Amberley, the Sat demo and Sun demo and reposition to Amberley. Therefore the Sunday demo had to be cut to allow for the Monday reposition flight as it would have departed on Sunday after the airshow demo, but it couldn't due weather. That makes sense. It's likely to do with cycles and maintenance - an extra flight now could have flow-on impacts for training flights later. There are only 10 of these things flying apparently. |
Squawk7700,
Ottol's RAAF link provided the following, right at the beginning: "Due to weather in Amberley the F35A will now depart Avalon Air Show on Monday, 6 March rather than Sunday 5 March as previously scheduled." I'd interpret that to mean that they are currently at Avalon. |
Coming home...
This is maybe a bit off topic, or in the wrong spot or whatever, but how good was flying around the basin and the coastal route during the rush hour this evening (Sunday).
I was a little apprehensive before heading off it has to be said, but with such brilliant comms from everyone coming round the vfr route it just made the whole experience great fun- finished off my day very nicely! Was a pleasure to be in the skies over Melb this evening! |
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