I'm amazed that the EN refueller can't set the story straight. If it happened in TVL our man there would have been right on it.

Lucky the Moomba security fence saved the day..

Car Ramrod, they report so far from ATSB on the Moomba incident states that it hit the fence during Approach.

Ix, well, duh. DF already mentioned what the report said.

What nobody seems to be able to say is where the aircraft came to rest in relation to said hit fence. Hence my questioning.

One also struggles to comprehend how an approach in apparently good weather results in a King Air presented like this one.

Car RAMROD, you asked "if it hit the fence and then came to grief in the position depicted in the photo, or did it hit the ground and then the fence?" it clearly states it hit the fence on approach, so therefore it hit the fence then somehow ended up with the gear up sliding on its belly.

If it hit the fence after it had already impacted the ground it wouldn't have said it hit the fence on approach, it would have had a gear up landing and gone through a fence. "duh".

Those initial 20 second summaries released straight after the event don't contain that much info, it is a very basic description which may not have all the info.

So apologies for asking some questions to ascertain if there's any more to the story. I haven't yet discounted that it could have touched down before the fence and then hit it whilst trying to go around with the subsequent belly slide. Only for the simple reason that it was obviously low enough to hit the fence in the first place.

I'm intrigued as to the odd placement of what appears to be a detached MLG too.

Fact is the aircraft didn't land on a runway due to an abnormality or whatever. Very interesting this will be.

SN

Moomba B200 Curiously quite
 

It will be very interesting indeed to find out what happened. I see another thread started about this incident was locked although probably because it was mentioned here. I suspect that this has been kept very quite because there is a bit of a story behind it which of course makes it more interesting. I guess the best part is that nobody was hurt which is always a good thing.

Wouldn't happen in a sim!

Band, are you suggesting it was a training accident?

Springs to mind after another thread I was reading and extreme lack of info released to protect brand that if was deflectable away from brand, would have been by now.

My experience is RFDS will cop it on the chin if it is RFDS or staff fault but after reports and investigations done. But if staff offer explanation that it was some other factor, that is released by management soon after event.

If this was a training issue (not saying it is) the pilot/s will be supported if said training was approved and not hung out to dry. No-one was hurt, training even practice training needs to be done. No passenger flights are perfect for practice training and probably approved by such organisations.

*** Only my speculation as to a possible and in no way any bad reflection on RFDS or staff (in fact the opposite).

Report says pilot & passengers weren't injured, so therefore it would have been a regular clinic run.

DF.

Agree.

"All staff are well and safe and exited the plane safely. No patients were on board."

I remember do an emergency decent into Meeka, Flight nurse near rear door was way up there (seemed 70 degrees). Me and the LAME sitting behind Pilot & sure we had 2 pilots that day can not remember why - maybe only to help lift out the TPE331 we were carrying?

How long ago was that Band ?
SD

A long time ago SD, back when the RFDS had 3 TPE331's taken out within a week from memory.


1 was a roo, 2 got too close to dirt/mud on taxi. The person I would call my boss from then retired a few years ago.

Very strong ethics and compliance of rules was had back then, as I am sure still is.

Band,
The insurance company would have been delighted with that.
Seem to recall something about those incidents, I had a little involvement with the RFDS over the years.
I may have known your boss.
SD

TJ was big boss, DC was section boss, RH was EM and my boss RB was the LH.

I did the Cotton Creek job with another contractor RP. If I had to guess was around 1990. It would have been written off except the door mod.

Band,
Knew them all.
I may have met your good self along the way.
SD

Final report out for the Moomba incident.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2016-170/

Did the aircraft get repaired and back flying? I was going to say buffed out, but I'll leave that to someone else.

Well should be no problem with the investigation, lots of experience and background within the regulator.
Back in another era they were the record holders for wheels up landings.