0.04 reading?
 

I assume this is wrong I know LAME is below 0.02.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32971331...th-test/#page1

Geoffrey Thomas, our resident "aviation expert" clearly needs to do some brushing up on the regs. I am sure even a newly licenced PPL would be able to set the record straight on this one.

Hint: its not 0.04

The first part of statement is also not in the regs. "Airline Staff" prohibited eight hours before shift.

Airline staff are prohibited from drinking eight hours before a shift and pilots cannot have a blood alcohol content over 0.04

Anyone got a reference for the 0.02?

A light or even mid beer over a lunch would be well under a 0.02 but obviously not under a 8 hrs bottle to throttle.

CASR 99.010, Definitions:
The 0.02 grams of alcohol in 210 litres of breath equates to a blood alcohol concentration of 0.02%.

(3) A person shall not act as, or perform any duties or functions preparatory to acting as, a member of the operating crew of an aircraft if the person has, during the period of 8 hours immediately preceding the departure of the aircraft consumed any alcoholic liquor

It left 16 or 18 hours later! does that make him safe? or is a refusal the same as a car RBT?

This is a non-VH registered aircraft; perhaps the Dubai regs are different to ours?

(eg the FARs specify 0.04)

Refusal to give a sample is 50 penalty units.

Also - and I did not realise this - but a CASA drug tester can ask for ID, being driver's license, passport, or ASIC.

A refusal is treated the same as a positive test. The piece by Geoffrey Thomas says:

"Passengers were provided hotel accommodation and rebooked on EK421 with a delay of 16 hours."

"Later that day a new crew operated the A380 registered A6-EUF, back to Dubai as flight EK 2669 with no passengers."

The USA use a different method is my understanding - Like Hell they allow 0.04% as we have in Oz - stupid to mention.

From memory more than 100 ish pax were put on a later flight - very light for a 380.

Did Geoff give all this accurate info?

My guess, 100ish got on next available flight to fill it, new crew arrived to take rest departing 16ish hrs after original was meant to and with remaining paxs that got the lay over.

Sad days indeed if a 380 runs around with 100ish pax. Or NO pax with a valid crew??

Doesn't matter where the aircraft is registered, CASA can do a random drug and alcohol check on any foreign flight crew in Australia if they are on duty.

Refusal to do give a sample will still attract a fine.

Wonder if the pilot involved got tea and biscuits on his/her arrival back in DXB.

:p:p:p

Duck, try fired, visa cancelled and given about 5 days to depart. There won't be tea and bickies. Or coffee and dates. ;)

As posted above, it is an offense to consume alcohol less than 8 hours prior to flight - .02 is the tolerance for testing purposes. The new CASR 99 regs also close the CAR 256 loophole where you could clearly drink until you passed out 8 hours prior to flight and still have a considerable amount of alcohol in your bloodstream on duty.

I still remember being shown around Lufthansas maintenance base in Hamburg(?) I was surprised that the canteen served beer and that LAMES seemed to drink about two litres at lunch along with their wurst.

Virtually There, there wasn't any "loophole" in 256. People that think that way clearly do not understand what is written in black and white on the page in front of them.

If they still had alcohol in their bloodstream after a big night and stopping 8 hours before duty, they'd still be in breech of the above.

Would also apply, as their capacity to act would be impaired. Would you like to try and prove to a court that with a hangover, although you stopped drinking 8hrs earlier, your capacity to act is not impaired? If so, your a braver man/woman than me!

Definition of "impaired/intoxication"? How are they measured in relation to CAR 256?

I would imagine that would be 0.02 which I believe is the minimum legally detectable level. That would be a level of intoxication.

Where is that stated in CAR 256?

I'm not having a go at you, BTW. My point is, why was CASR 99 promulgated if CAR 256 was already legally water-tight?

In medically defined terms, human beings can have a blood alcohol level of up to .04 (in some cases higher) with no loss of coordination or impaired judgement. In fact, some medical studies have shown increased performance with small amounts of alcohol in the bloodstream.

That is just one legal defense against CAR 256