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Desert Flower 11th Sep 2016 07:41

Aircraft accident at Parafield
 
Heard that one aircraft taxied into another at Parafield just after 4PM local time this afternoon & there has been a fatality as a result. :sad:

DF.

onetrack 11th Sep 2016 07:50

It appears so, it's still breaking news, with more information to come ..

Sounds as if it may have been an accidental start-up and resultant unexpected aircraft movement?

Aircraft collide on ground at Parafield airport

Hempy 11th Sep 2016 08:23

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/783...x2-460x307.jpg

Desert Flower 11th Sep 2016 08:29


Originally Posted by onetrack (Post 9504025)
It appears so, it's still breaking news, with more information to come ..

Sounds as if it may have been an accidental start-up and resultant unexpected aircraft movement?

Aircraft collide on ground at Parafield airport

Yes - hand swinging the prop & it got away from him. :(

onetrack 11th Sep 2016 10:08

I don't know what you can say. You disobey or forget very basic safety rules, and machines have no hesitation in killing you within milliseconds, it's that simple.
Those people who are too casual in their approach to vital safety issues nearly always pay the ultimate price.

One dead in on-ground aircraft collision

Checklist Charlie 11th Sep 2016 10:56

"Twin engined Saratoga"

Sheesh, reporters!

CC

kaz3g 11th Sep 2016 11:06

Condolences to the family and friends of the deceased.

Not much can be said that will change the outcome now but I understand the second aircraft was a "twin-engined Saratoga". At least they got the Cessna right.

Kaz

PoppaJo 11th Sep 2016 11:47


I don't know what you can say. You disobey or forget very basic safety rules, and machines have no hesitation in killing you within milliseconds, it's that simple.
Those people who are too casual in their approach to vital safety issues nearly always pay the ultimate price.
Right on.

My instructor showed me a similar photo to below about 30 years ago when I was learning to fly. Needless to say I never looked at the prop the same way again. I still give that thing strange looks when around lighties.

https://s21.postimg.org/j4z5raxfr/IMG_2554.jpg

dibloc 11th Sep 2016 12:27


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 9504072)
Yes - hand swinging the prop & it got away from him. :(

Are you ******* serious?

What the hell is wrong with you people.

Condolences.

mickjoebill 11th Sep 2016 20:18


Originally Posted by dibloc (Post 9504271)
Are you ******* serious?

What the hell is wrong with you people.

Condolences.

Are you suggesting the comments are misfounded or insensitive?

Mickjoebill

Lancair70 11th Sep 2016 21:53

Condolences to those affected by this tragic event.

To the media, how about some basic fact checking before reporting! Perhaps that's not covered in school anymore. Since when is a Piper Saratoga with clearly one engine in the pics, a twin engine aircraft ? Where's the 2nd engine ?

"A RUNAWAY plane struck and killed a pilot before hitting a stationary aircraft head-on, in a freak tragedy on the tarmac at Parafield Airport on Sunday.
Emergency services rushed to the airfield in Adelaide’s north about 4pm after reports that two planes had crashed on the tarmac.
A 62-year-old Wattle Park man was fatally injured by a yellow single-engine, four-cylinder Cessna, which then careered into a white, twin-engine Piper Saratoga.
"

Parafield Airport crash: At least one person killed as two plans collide

EDIT: Not my spelling in the link either, direct copy from news site.

mickjoebill 11th Sep 2016 22:22

ABC radio reporting that neither plane was occupied but a dog was removed from the cabin of the "taxiing" plane.

Mickjoebill

Arnold E 12th Sep 2016 01:13

I have heard that the person was an Engineer, anybody know if there is any truth in that??

Stanwell 12th Sep 2016 01:40

dibloc,
I'll second mickjoebill's question to you.
I could see nothing at all wrong with Desert Flower's observation.
Can we have an answer please?

IsDon 12th Sep 2016 01:50

Was the guy killed the guy that was at fault, or just some poor unfortunate who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

TWT 12th Sep 2016 02:22

Lancair,the older experienced journos who could spell,write using good grammar and who would check facts before publishing a story are long gone.Advertising revenue for News organisations has declined dramatically as the advertisers move online.Newsrooms are 'ghost towns' these days,vast numbers have been 'let go'.

These days they just have inexperienced 'journos' who are paid a pittance.You get what you pay for.

Squawk7700 12th Sep 2016 02:35

At least journo's put spaces in after full stops :-)

troppo 12th Sep 2016 04:37

pprune sure ain't what it used to be...

Clare Prop 12th Sep 2016 05:23

Well Sq7700, at least TWT didn't misuse any apostrophes.

Squawk7700 12th Sep 2016 06:41


Originally Posted by Clare Prop (Post 9504981)
Well Sq7700, at least TWT didn't misuse any apostrophes.

It adds to readability. Missingspacesdonthelpatall.

Jungmeister 12th Sep 2016 07:41

Adelaide Advertiser
 
It is very sad to hear of the fatal accident on the apron at Parafield. The Adelaide Advertiser Monday online edition has worked its headline over and even has a reporter's voice commentary that is designed to maximise attention grabbing plus a summary of recent aviation fatalities in South Australia.

Pilot dies as two planes crash at Parafield Airport

Elizabeth Henson and Meagan Dillon, The Advertiser
September 12, 2016 12:43pm

Xray Tango 12th Sep 2016 10:01

Sure looks like a " single engine " Saratoga to me ! Where'd the twin thing come from ?

Spotl 12th Sep 2016 14:47

Very sad to see a life lost. If hand starting was the problem, it recalls where hand starting an Auster at BK in 1955 resulted in the aircraft getting airborne without the pilot and overflying Sydney before being shot down by two Navy Sea Fury aircraft.

Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ehAQVhOL3k

mikewil 12th Sep 2016 21:46

I can't imagine the aircraft would've been going particularly fast when it hit him. Suggests he may have been hit by the prop. Anyone confirm whether this was the case?

Absolutely awful incident in any case but to be hit by the prop would not have been a good sight for witnesses or the emergency crews who were subsequently on the scene.

TWT 12th Sep 2016 22:15

No Cookies | The Advertiser

onetrack 13th Sep 2016 04:10

I'm wondering about the mention of a dog on one of the aircraft, and if it was on the Cessna that fired up and took off - and whether any movement or actions of the dog - if left unrestrained - had any part to play in the accident?

I'm thinking the possibility of an unrestrained dog releasing the park brake by jumping around.
However, I don't know the precise style and operation of the park brake on that particular aircraft, as I understand there are different park brake styles amongst the various Cessna models.


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