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Hasherucf 4th May 2016 17:27


'a normal Schedule 5'.
We can mince words clearedtoenter but I'm sure you know my meaning. Has your LAME ever removed the tail just to inspect structure on a schedule 5? Without finding any prior defects? I think you have the answer. Plus I can't believe I have to type this explanation.

Hasherucf 5th May 2016 10:50

So clearedtoreenter which model Cessna do you own?

Hasherucf 5th May 2016 11:22

I'm trying to imagine how to access the mounting structure to eddy current the bolt holes! Enlighten me please.

Perspective 5th May 2016 12:58

Probably a 172 then hash, rudder off only unless frozen bearings elsewhere?

Fly4Business 6th May 2016 08:42


I'm trying to imagine how to access the mounting structure to eddy current the bolt holes! Enlighten me please.
Chainsaw? ;-)

flopter 10th Jun 2016 22:48

...anyone else heard a rumour that the SIDS deadline, on only the 100 series, may be extended by another 2 years?

aero junkie 11th Jun 2016 00:33

Straight from CASA

The deadline for the completion of private category Cessna 100 series aircraft remains 30 June 2016.

Eyrie 11th Jun 2016 07:07

Here, sadly we see what's wrong with Australian aviation. If you suspect there might be something wrong with your aircraft, you may at any time have it inspected and rectified, if necessary.
Some here don't want to do that unless FORCED to and then they want everyone else to suffer the same.
Pathetic.

PLovett 11th Jun 2016 09:20


Nope, not even for SIDS.
Unless it is a recent model then it ain't having a proper SIDS. I have watched 2 of ours being done, both older models, and everything comes off.

Hasherucf 13th Jun 2016 08:24


Nope, not even for SIDS.
The pen is mightier than the spanner ;-)

gassed budgie 14th Jun 2016 11:35

There should be an announcement from CAsA before the end of month regards the SID's for the 100 series Cessna's. I'll be more than a little interested to see where they go with this, having a couple of aircraft that require the SID's.

But CAsA being CAsA , they'll probably fcuk things up like most other things that they've touched in recent times. We'll see.

JandakotJester 14th Jun 2016 17:45

Yes, SIDS is a financial hemorrhoid, and yes it makes gravity and debt stick to your plane for a while, it may dull the pain of Cessna owners to consider this:

when a stock goes ex-dividend, its listed price drops, but every shareholder is effected equally, and no one profits or suffers more than anyone else.

when the price of avgas or landing fees goes up 15%, we all whinge and protest but again, it hits us all equally

when the US $ drops against the Aus $, Australian aircraft owners have all lost a bit of world value on their US made aircraft

Anyhoooo, the point I'm clumsily making is that in say a year, when everyone is either SIDS compliant or their plane is sitting in a kindy playground, Australian Cessnas will be, worth the same as against each other. Also, the market will ensure those planes are more expensive to people entering the market to buy (I sure as hell will be adding the cost of my C210 SIDS to the future sale price, and even if I didn't my bank would do it for me when they repossess it !).

So don't count the SIDS cost as a financial loss on your investment, its an enforced capital gain, even if you don't put a monetary value on having your plane being given a clean bill of structural health. Perhaps you can ponder the value of this peace of mind when next you get hit by a dose of CAT over the wheatbelt on a hot day, or a blast of unwelcome g force when landing at RTI in a howling seabreeze.

Keep the blue stuff on the left flying north from Perth !

Band a Lot 18th Jun 2016 06:43

"Anyhoooo, the point I'm clumsily making is that in say a year, when everyone is either SIDS compliant or their plane is sitting in a kindy playground, Australian Cessnas will be, worth the same as against each other."


Rubbish SID's aint SID's and AUD($) likes low time imports not local sitters. But then remember it only Cessna and most places repeat all SID,s each 10 years in Australia. (that is minimal $1,000 per year EXTRA in labour).

ivan ellerbai 19th Jun 2016 12:04


Originally Posted by Band a Lot
But then remember it only Cessna and most places repeat all SID,s each 10 years in Australia. (that is minimal $1,000 per year EXTRA in labour).

How long before Beechcraft or Piper mandate something similar?

Band a Lot 20th Jun 2016 08:07

Beech in bed with Cessna so maybe soon, but they have spar life and things.
Piper have been trying to avoid by use of Bulletins, don't think they are keen.

But saw the AWB on J&R wing attach fittings for C400, I have fitted a few of them + 10 years ago as part of SID's.

aero junkie 21st Jun 2016 19:09

2 year extension

Cessna SIDs extension has strict conditions | Flight Safety Australia

flopter 23rd Jun 2016 05:32

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016L01051

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2016L01053

Nice one.

Band a Lot 26th Jun 2016 06:25

Re areo junkie link.

Whats last para list?

"‘The extra two years for SIDs completion will allow Cessna 100 series aircraft owners and maintainers to plan to spread out the work and the costs over a longer period with no unacceptable risks to safety.


‘This initiative by CASA is an example of our commitment to work with the aviation community to get outcomes that balance safety and operational requirements.’


Because they are not strongly related to the structural integrity of the aircraft these SIDs are not compulsory. This includes SIDs relating to landing gear—although landing gear failure could cause a runway accident, analysis of these accidents shows they rarely lead to injuries or deaths. Spar failure is a different case."

LeadSled 26th Jun 2016 15:10

https://www.casa.gov.au/files/awb-02-048-issue-5-compliance-cessna-supplemental-inspection-documents

https://www.casa.gov.au/airworthiness/standard-page/airworthiness-bulletins

Folks,
See above.
Tootle pip!!

Band a Lot 27th Jun 2016 08:34

Thanks for the helpful links.

Are some SID's now not applicable - as per last week all SID's for Cessna type and S/N needed to be carried out.

My bolded suggest that some now not need be done - is that correct?

I would have read links but yesterday would not open, now still extreme slow net speed.

Useful reply's only thanks guys!


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