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Frank Arouet 4th Apr 2016 00:14

Mark Skidmore throws toys out of the pram.
 
Apart from the rudeness, it would appear every blogger in the world now knows his Wife's email address which I have deleted to save her embarrassment.


From: Skidmore
Date: April 2, 2016 at 8:02:06 PM GMT+11
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Cancellation of membership.

Please cancel my membership with immediate effect as I no longer want to be associated with AOPA.

Mark Skidmore

Member number ...

junior.VH-LFA 4th Apr 2016 00:26

Can you blame him?

This thread is far more petty than his email, just saying. If someone wants to leave an organisation that they were a part of, who cares? This isn't me weighing into what's been said about the man either, but would go for any person.

Dick Smith 4th Apr 2016 00:48

Junior. There is a clear message here from Mr Skidmore.

His resignation came immediately after the AOPA newsletter was sent out. This newsletter included criticism of CASA amongst other things.

Instead of just letting his membership expire he has made a very clear message to any person or organisation that dares to criticise CASA.

That is - he will have nothing further to do with you.

ozbiggles 4th Apr 2016 00:49

This kind of thing says more about the people who spread private emails than it does the person sent it...and that's if it's legit in the first place.
Sounds like something a spoilt brat on Facebook would do...not someone who is meant to be a professional pilot

thorn bird 4th Apr 2016 00:51

It would appear AVM (retired) Skidmore does not support a General Aviation revival, and does not wish to associate with civilian aircraft owners and pilots.

Perhaps AVM (retired) Skidmore subscribes to CAsA policy captured so eloquently by that immovable granite figure from the iron ring who famously stated "the only aircraft flying in Australia should be RPT" or RAAF", with a proviso that the policy be changed to read the RAAF and RPT flown by ex RAAF pilots.

Perhaps someone could convince him that he should disassociate himself altogether from aviation and resign. Does he really want his legacy to be tarnished with the McCormack mantel?
His nickname could be the Whimpering Skull.

ozbiggles 4th Apr 2016 00:52

And what do you do with people who disagree with you Mr Smith?

Arm out the window 4th Apr 2016 01:50


Apart from the rudeness, it would appear every blogger in the world now knows his Wife's email address which I have deleted to save her embarrassment.
Well, why would anyone circulate or publicly post it in the first place, if not to be vindictive? Too right you should delete personal addresses in such a case - what do you want, a medal?


Mark Skidmore throws toys out of the pram.
No, Mark Skidmore (if this is legit) indicates he wants to leave an organisation, as is his right.


Instead of just letting his membership expire he has made a very clear message to any person or organisation that dares to criticise CASA.
That is - he will have nothing further to do with you.
No, he's made a clear message that he wants to no longer be a member, not any of those made-up things!

Thorn Bird, your post is simple cowardly stirring with its 'perhaps', 'it would appear', and so on. You're just making crap up and attributing it to someone you clearly don't know. There'd be a few good nicknames that could be thrown at you if that's how you carry on.


This thread is far more petty than his email, just saying.
Spot on.

junior.VH-LFA 4th Apr 2016 01:51

Code:

does not wish to associate with civilian aircraft owners and pilots.
Which is why he owns his own VH registed aircraft... As does Binskin and other military leaders :{

I recall Skidmore being at last years AAAA fly in at Echuca, not to present or speak but just attending. Definitley the actions of someone out to get all of you :ok: .

C'mon guys, sometimes you have valid points there is no denying but this is just getting old now, and descending far below an acceptable lower safe for standards.

Dick Smith 4th Apr 2016 01:58

Ozbiggles. I like people who disagree with me. What do I do? I open up friendly conversation .

Many of the best decisions I have made in life came from changing my view after I was convinced by others that I was wrong.

It's happened lots of times. How else would I have got that plane.

Harder on this airspace and CASA issue because not one of those posting on prune and saying I am wrong will actually have a conversation with me. As I said before. It is all very strange.

Lead Balloon 4th Apr 2016 03:08

He should have resigned his membership of AOPA before taking up the DAS position. If he has now resigned as a consequence of the recent AOPA letter, it's just another error of judgment.

actus reus 4th Apr 2016 03:52

Arm out the Window,

You are absolutely correct.

If any organization does not suit a member, they normally resign.

AOPA, for all that it is and for all that it is not, membership or non-membership is a personal preference regardless of that person's day job, or is the AOPA the font of all GA knowledge with the future of GA inextricably linked to it?

Carping is a blood sport in GA it seems.

Frank Arouet 4th Apr 2016 04:16

From memory the aim of AOPA was to represent members rights to fly responsibly without unnecessary costs or regulations. It would appear any DAS having a membership would be not only be an error of judgment but given the aim of CAsA is constantly at odds with that mission statement, one would feel it was inappropriate.


Past experience of AOPA being a compliant Arm of that regulator appears to have ended now they are doing what they were supposed to do. Represent their members interests. Maybe now they may get a membership increase with an assertive President who is not prepared to cop their $hit any more.


Some of you blokes are precious.

donpizmeov 4th Apr 2016 04:27

Frank your posting is very similar to a jilted lover posting nude pics of the ex.
I am sure the AOPA board have more maturity.

CaptainMidnight 4th Apr 2016 05:33

Whoever in AOPA released that should be kicked in the ar*e.

Disgraceful, and a breach of privacy.

Frank Arouet 4th Apr 2016 05:52

Oh, the injustice of it all. Oh, the humanity. Nothing CAsA would contemplate doing of course. It's in the public domain, ducks nuts addresses and all on various sites. Get over it and see it as a watershed in aviation politics or get off the pot.

junior.VH-LFA 4th Apr 2016 05:57


very similar to a jilted lover posting nude pics of the ex.
I don't know, usually when a guy does that and gets told what he's doing is wrong he stops.

Arm out the window 4th Apr 2016 06:19


see it as a watershed in aviation politics or get off the pot.
I reckon most sensible people would see it as a feeble attempt to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Not too sure whether being on or off the pot matters, although there's a fair bit of crap being written so it might be relevant I suppose.:confused:

no_one 4th Apr 2016 06:32

I just want to know what AOPA said that upset him. Anyone have a link?

Aussie Bob 4th Apr 2016 07:15

I quit AOPA about 5 years ago in disgust at their being in the pocket of the regulator. After 25 years being a member, i wrote them a letter explaining my view. I got no reply, no argument regarding my points, nada, nothing. Heck they could have talked me into staying if they had tried.

If they had made my letter and email public I would have been slightly pissed off. That they have made the resignation of another member public makes me glad I am not a part of them. I guess no attempt was made to get the said member to change his mind either.

Stretch06 4th Apr 2016 08:28

Spot on Aussie Bob and Capt Moonlight :ok:


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