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Duck Pilot 16th Mar 2016 06:17

Piper Aztec accident near Mareeba 5/3/16
 
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2016-019/

Can anyone confirm who the pilot was? WR??? I wish him all the best and a speedy recovery. Sad to see the loss of a good aircraft and a fellow pilot injured.

Stanwell 16th Mar 2016 06:40

Good to hear the pilot's pretty well OK - one can always buy another Aztec.

While don't know the detail of his unscheduled arrival back on terra firma, I tend to cock an eyebrow when I see that lazy, 'one size fits all' expression,
"Collision with Terrain".
When one sees that, it brings to mind an aircraft stuffed into the side of a mountain.
Sounds like he did well to put it down gently enough to walk away.

A terse instructor might well say to a student.. "That wasn't a landing, son - that was a 'collision with terrain'.
It's all a matter of degree.
Why not say 'a rock got in the way during rollout'?
(I am being cheeky.)
.

LeadSled 16th Mar 2016 07:06

Saratoga ??
Tootle pip!!

PA39 16th Mar 2016 07:22

truck
 
Unusual for an old truck with one up not to maintain altitude on one donk. Experienced jockey too.

Stanwell 16th Mar 2016 07:28


Originally Posted by LeadSled (Post 9312217)
Saratoga ??
Tootle pip!!



Beg pardon, Leady - corrected.
The brain slipped out of gear. :ooh:

Jabawocky 16th Mar 2016 07:29

PA39

It might depend on what happened with the prop. Or perhaps like happened to the young fella who died in the Whyalla prang, he had an engine let go that clam shelled the cowls and the plane was unflyable with the thrust from the other. Had to close the throttle and glide it in to a sheep paddock.

I hope CASA, Chief pilot or whoever do not repeat the BS on this poor chap if that ws the case here.

Jabawocky 16th Mar 2016 07:32

Just thinking a bit more about this failure.

Can someone put me in touch with the owner/pilot please. Recent things make me want to enquire. And it is not that I do not trust the ATSB either http://www.beechtalk.com/forums/images/smilies/liar.gif

Duck Pilot 16th Mar 2016 07:39

Pilot certainly didn't walk away from this one. He will survive I hope, may not fly again though sadly.

Stanwell 16th Mar 2016 08:04

Oh dear.
The ATSB report did state .. "Highest injury level: Minor".

Duck Pilot 16th Mar 2016 08:27

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=185156

ATSB are wrong! Check the channel 7 link out at the bottom of the page with video footage.

Mark__ 16th Mar 2016 08:58

It was for sale based at YMBA.

Aviation Advertiser - Aircraft Classifieds - Australia

Interesting to note that LH engine had almost 1900 hours on it.

aroa 16th Mar 2016 11:41

terra firma...
 
BIQ bit the greenery about 2-3 minutes after departure.
It was already low in the 'low country'

Mark thunks wrong..... think hairy goats ! :ouch:

And the reliable source needs to brush up on a/c id-ing...but can be excused if the wx was that bad around the Atherton higher country.

But wait there's more....:{

And we have every confidence the appropriate authorities will sort it all out.
Maybe.

tail wheel 16th Mar 2016 19:26


Experienced jockey too.
Was the LAME/Pilot owner flying?

I hope his injuries are minor and he recovers quickly.

outlandishoutlanding 16th Mar 2016 20:59


Originally Posted by Duck Pilot (Post 9312283)
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=185156

ATSB are wrong! Check the channel 7 link out at the bottom of the page with video footage.

Is that the Yahoo7 link that says 'pilot escapes serious injury'? Although they seem to be wrong; damage to a prosthetic hip can be very serious and life changing.

Duck Pilot 17th Mar 2016 01:16

It's the Yahoo7 link, I though it could be a pretty serious injury.

Hope he recovers quickly.

Radar Man 18th Mar 2016 09:54

According to the Yahoo7 report, it was uninsured.

Stanwell 18th Mar 2016 19:45

And... he'd planned to set off for Darwin the following day. :ooh:

GregP 19th Mar 2016 02:23

An Aztec
 
Hmm ... no post-crash fire??

I've got over 1,000hrs on an Aztec; a difficult aircraft to get into trouble with. I wonder whether in a rush to depart he may have mishandled fuel selectors instead of cowl flaps (not impossible to do if you're not paying attention .. I've seen it done on my own aircraft by a guy who steadfastly refused to use a check list).

All the same; rotten luck.

tail wheel 19th Mar 2016 19:37

Looks like the owner was flying. Hope for a speedy and full recovery.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watc...mareeba/#page1

PA39 20th Mar 2016 00:32

Aztec
 
JABA

Yes mate there are many variables in there.

I am living testimony to the saying The older you get the slower you become.

I misidentified a failed engine in an Aztec a couple of years back......she didn't like it :).....wrong pedal when she yawed. :O:O:O


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