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Aye Ess 6th Feb 2016 08:53

In 1979 and 1980 I flew bank runs for Purcells Air Service from Sydney. We had three brand new C310 aircraft. Routes were all ports to Coolangatta, south coast Nowra, Moruya, Merimbula. Another went Goulburn Canberra, Cooma. And the shorter one was around Pelican, Cessnock and Cooranbong. My goodness it was hurry, hurry, hurry at Sydney each morning all jostling for a rapid departure before all the other companies.[IMG]http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...pslr92jr7z.jpg[/IMG]

Stationair8 6th Feb 2016 21:25

Nice photo, Aye Ess.

Must have been a good job flying a brand new C310R, plenty of hours for the log book.

Must be a few stories in Pprune land about the bank runs?

When did they start?

The runs that GAM do out of Essendon, are they bank runs or a combination of bank documents and freight?

Metro man 7th Feb 2016 06:38

Bank run flights may not be restricted to bank documents. Overnight courier companies packages, medical specimens for testing, legal documents from solicitors offices, urgent spare parts and even film from traffic cameras goes along as well.

Theses runs are a communication link to smaller distant towns. The question of whether they could survive without the banks business and how necessary they are in the age of high speed internet is up for discussion.

Aye Ess 7th Feb 2016 18:50

Yes, Stationair..... bank runs in brand new C310s was a dream come true. I was getting valuable IFR twin time rapidly, many instrument letdowns for real. No screaming passengers. And every weekend and bank holiday off. I was like a dog with two tails.

BPA 8th Feb 2016 03:04

And the C310 on the right was still flying Bankruns out of BK in the mid-90's.

DutyofCare 9th Feb 2016 12:35

Tough Times ahead
 
Aye Ess dam top photo that bloke :ok:

Flying a C 310R back then would of been like driving a Fully Sick WRX now !

Some are saying the END OF AN ERA is closing in on us with these bank runs ending soon :(

How many pilots have built a career out a start runs docs around the State :D

Who / what is responsible for this change & who holds THAT MAGIC CONTRACT of demise :confused:

How will a large company like GAM manage this coming news :{

White Van Driver 31st Jan 2023 16:56

7 years on from this thread starting - have bank runs met their end? Or are they still holding on?

Ascend Charlie 31st Jan 2023 20:57

In the early 90s, a helicopter was used to bring bank docs to Sydney from Gosford and the Central Coast. The docs had to be in SY by 7pm. In winter, the run was done Night VMC.

A jealous competitor in the chopper business decided to be an R-sole (well, actually it wasn't a decision, he was an R-sole all the time) and put his own aircraft up at Long Reef at 6.55pm and "perform airwork". Along comes bank runner, asks for clearance, it is not available due to R-sole taking up too much space, delays, anger, multiple requests denied, until R-sole has kept the bank runner out past his deadline.

This went on for 3 nights until a quiet word with ATC by phone alerted them to what was happening, so when R-sole requested takeoff clearance at KSA, tower held him on the ground until the Bank runner was home. R-sole was spitting chips at ATC, but they knew what he was like and just laughed.

giantkingsquid 31st Jan 2023 21:19


Originally Posted by White Van Driver (Post 11377524)
7 years on from this thread starting - have bank runs met their end? Or are they still holding on?

I see a GAM Aero Commander on approach for YORG every afternoon at 4:15 so still going in my neck of the woods.

Peter Fanelli 1st Feb 2023 21:34

I flew banks runs back in the late 80s and early 90s out of Adelaide.
There were always rumors that bank runs were soon going to end.
When I moved to the US in the late 90s I stayed in the aviation business for a while
but in the last decade prior to retirement I was self employed doing courier work
much of which consisted of, yes, transporting bank documents by road. Again, there were
constant rumors of bank work ending and I can assure you that such work has now ended
in the US, replaced by electronic transmission of images of documents. There maybe a few small banks still doing it,
but it's over for the larger banks.
Sad to say but that probably means the end is coming for Australian bank runs as well.

172heavy 1st Feb 2023 22:26


Originally Posted by White Van Driver (Post 11377524)
7 years on from this thread starting - have bank runs met their end? Or are they still holding on?

They are still happening. GAM Air and Macquarie Air are still going strong out of BK. Macquarie Air has 4 runs being done with Supervans, Cheiftains and a PAC750. GAM has 3 runs I believe. The pay is not bad for an entry level job. GAM 63K Salary and Mac Air $350-400/day rate permanent part-time. Macquarie Air was providing housing but I believe that has recently changed.

Clinton McKenzie 1st Feb 2023 22:39

A 208 lobs in and out of YCTM on each morning and evening of each working day. Does a round of various Western NSW towns. Overnights at YHAY.

I call it a ‘bank runner’. I understand it’s contracted to Toll, so I assume it’s moving parcels for Toll.

I understand it used for parachuting (humans, not parcels) on the weekend.

172heavy 1st Feb 2023 22:46


Originally Posted by Clinton McKenzie (Post 11378273)
A 208 lobs in and out of YCTM on each morning and evening of each working day. Does a round of various Western NSW towns. Overnights at YHAY.

I call it a ‘bank runner’. I understand it’s contracted to Toll, so I assume it’s moving parcels for Toll.

I understand it used for parachuting (humans, not parcels) on the weekend.

It's one of the 208s Macquarie Air utilise. It's a cross-hire from Sydney Skydivers. Toll frieght Mon-Fri then jump runs on the weekend. That western run is a big one, it's an 11 sector split-duty day but a solid 7-8 flight hours in the logbook for the guy doing it.

TBM-Legend 2nd Feb 2023 06:54


Originally Posted by mcgrath50 (Post 9260119)
Ah yes, that hilarious jewish stereotype. Racisim is so funny and Australia is definitely the lucky country that we are free to still make jokes and where black face like it was the 1950s unlike tyrannical hell holes like the US and UK.


Ah, Jacob tell me about the Jewish pleasure finger. Oh it’s the one that works the cash register! Told to me when I was in Israel. They laugh at themselves too you know, but maybe some don’t know!!!

I say let’s lighten up chaps and chapesses and others and enjoy every day.


Aerodynamicer 2nd Feb 2023 08:50

A quick look at Flight stalker shows MEH headed out to Ceduna via all stops tomorrow, that thing must have 50'000 hours on it by now. Not enough bank documents to fill an envelope when I last flew a bank run 6 years ago. Pathology and overnight packages are the mainstay these days.

Horatio Leafblower 3rd Feb 2023 11:21

As the OP on this thread I am genuinely pleased that the rumour was wrong or, at least, early by 7-10 years.
It's pretty different to the glory days where Bankstown was like Battle of Britain with MU-2s and SA=227 and a dozen Chieftains and C310s and B58s barrelling down the lane in the dark. Still - great flying if you can get it and good ATPL study time between morning and evening legs :ok:

kikatinalong 4th Feb 2023 11:09

Dont forget the Aerostars Horatio. I used to love the Aerostars

Stationair8 6th Feb 2023 11:01

Don’t forget the mighty Piper Arrow VH-INA, that MacKnight Airlines used on the bank run at one stage.


Checkboard 6th Feb 2023 12:33

Jetcraft Aviation used to run two B58 Baronss, a B55 Baron and a Navajo out of Archerfield, and an Aerostar out of Townsville on bank runs.

prickly 7th Feb 2023 09:09

Jewish piano, not even funny or clever, so for that reason alone it is offensive. If you want a laugh, listen to Albo banging on about working orstwayans, now thats funny.


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