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Stationair8 2nd Dec 2015 00:12

Cyber Attack on BoM Supercomputer
 
ABC are reporting a cyber attack on the BoM Supercomputer.

Must be the cause of the poor forecasting of late!

Flying Binghi 2nd Dec 2015 01:45

China blamed for 'massive' cyber attack on Bureau of Meteorology supercomputer - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

"...the Bureau's chief executive Robert Vertessy told Radio National that his agency had evolved "from what was once just a straight weather service to what I would call now a more broad-based environmental intelligence agency"."

................................:hmm:




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CAR42ZE 2nd Dec 2015 03:25

environmental intelligence agency

Or maybe this is all a rouse and they are stealthily market testing a name change.

"I work for the agency..."
"Wow! What agency? Are you allowed to tell me what you do?"
"Sorry - that's actually classified. All I can tell you is at certain times of the day I walk outside and look at the sky... Then I turn around and walk back inside again."

Tinstaafl 2nd Dec 2015 07:30

How does one cyber attack a rock on a chain hung out in an exposed area?

onetrack 2nd Dec 2015 07:48

Not to worry. Any information that the hackers gleaned, will only have a 50% chance of being accurate, anyway. :E

I seem to recall - quite a number of years ago now, before weather information-gathering became better organised and seriously enlarged - that the BOM loudly and proudly proclaimed, that in the past year, they had had a forecasting accuracy rate, that had reached a new high - 48% accuracy.

Somebody immediately pointed out that if the BOM had totally reversed its forecast for each day of the preceding year (i.e. - said it was going to rain, instead of forecasting fine, and vice versa) - then the forecasting accuracy rate would have jumped to 52%!

Needless to say, we never heard the BOM brag about its accuracy rate again for quite some time - no doubt until the major embarrassment subsided.

Acrosport II 2nd Dec 2015 09:08


it will cost millions of dollars to plug the security breach
Wish I owned the company going to receive this income.

Just hope its not the same company that left it open to the 'massive breach', in the first place.

Flying Binghi 2nd Dec 2015 09:35


...Somebody immediately pointed out that if the BOM had totally reversed its forecast for each day of the preceding year (i.e. - said it was going to rain, instead of forecasting fine, and vice versa) - then the forecasting accuracy rate would have jumped to 52%!...
RAOTFL :D

The mirth continues... it might not be the Chinese, it might be the Russians doing the hack...
Russia or China may be behind cyber attack

"the hack could have been an attempt to access climate data in the lead up to the UN talks on climate change in Paris..."

:ooh: We have secret climate data!

Oh, Dear. Global warming - It just gets more farcical by the day..:hmm:




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Seabreeze 2nd Dec 2015 23:16

sell aussie assets to make foreign intel easier
 
I have some good ideas,

Lets sell strategic federal assets such as ports so that foreigners have an easier base from which to spy on our defence assets. a beaut idea; we can save on not having to secure our systems!

My wife suggests that it would be more cost effective to bring in politicians on 457 visas, then they can pick fruit when parliament is not in session (a bonzer idea),

We can also save money by using IT infrastructure rented from overseas. (oops...... I think this is known as cloud computing and cloud email - some companies are already doing that), A Ripper idea

Replace all Aussie labour with foreign labour: that way we can never work again. a fanbloodytastic idea.

Hang on, sell the entire country - divide the assets between aussie citizens and we can all move to New Zealand. This idea would stand up better than a brick sh*thouse in a gale.

So to all Aussie pollies: Stop selling us out you miserable self-centred pr*cks.

Ooops thread drift away from pilot stuff :{due to rant; sorry mods.

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ChrisJ800 3rd Dec 2015 03:23

Be valuable intel for all the chinese buying up our farms!

Ultralights 3rd Dec 2015 04:35


How does one cyber attack a rock on a chain hung out in an exposed area?
wow, with their forecasting accuracy over the past decade, i didnt even think they had a rock on a chain!

Flying Binghi 5th Dec 2015 03:16

The BoM attack even rates a mention at WUWT...

Chinese Govt accused of hacking Australian Bureau of Meteorology | Watts Up With That?




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Section28- BE 5th Dec 2015 10:47

Hey settle down, nothing to see here........

If you'd just purchased a 'large' maritime asset for 99yrs from Adam's- 'Everything Must Go (prior the election) Pre-Christmas Sale'..............
(Note to Malcolm and the funsters- 'Apparently', someone parks Grey Boats against that sucker........ who knew!!!!!, he didn't- hard to get a good briefing note these days!!!!, Buggar!!!)

Reason would suggest, it'd be good practice to have a look at the Tide Chart- let alone, what maybe/may not be predicted (loose term that...) for the Ord and all the other stuff- (S. Kidman, when it happens..) etc. etc, that 'one' may want going forward................

A 'Regulator' in Aviation terms would probably expect some such due-diligence................, maybe not...????

Rgds
S28- BE

Di_Vosh 6th Dec 2015 10:29

They're welcome to it
 
"Super" Computer indeed!

ROFL!

IMHO, the BoM has had a steadily decreasing ability to accurately predict weather over the past 10 years.

At around 8:30pm Friday night the TAF for YMML was CAVOK. Around 10 hours later there was thick fog at Melbourne. Last night 9:30pm CAVOK. 6:00am this morning there was a PROB30 for Mist and broken at 0500'.

If the BoM cannot accurately predict weather 12 hours in advance at Australia's second busiest airport then there is a problem! This isn't new, or even that uncommon anymore.

Sadly, some of the comments from the ABC article reveal how out of touch the BoM is with reality


...and the bureau continues to provide reliable, ongoing access to high quality weather, climate, water and oceans information to its stakeholders
Debatable!


In March the Bureau's chief executive Dr Robert Vertessy told Radio National that his agency had evolved "from what was once just a straight weather service to what I would call now a more broad-based environmental intelligence agency".
I would suggest that the good Doctor revise his meds. This is pure fantasy.


It provides weather and climate forecasting, tsunami warnings, tide predictions, water resources and even space weather.
Space Weather?

But the best quote of all:


In the words of one source: "It could take years and cost hundreds of millions of dollars to fix."
Hundreds of millions? Really? I worked on some massive IT projects in my day. Hundreds of millions?? That means a complete replacement of the current system with more than one replacement system. At least that's what it would mean in the corporate world. In the BoM, it probably just means an upgrade and a reshuffle.

DIVOSH!

gerry111 6th Dec 2015 11:10

Section28- BE,


The really "smart" guys and gals within Defence may have discovered a rather clever strategy for the Port of Darwin. Lease the place to a Chinese corporation with close ties to the leadership. What's the chance then that the place will ever be bombed?


P.S. Have ASiO moved into their new HQ yet?

peterc005 6th Dec 2015 12:36

Might be a ploy by a cash-strapped government department.

Some script-kiddie hacks into your public website, so you claim it was the Chinese and hundreds of millions are needed to fix the problem.

nonsense 6th Dec 2015 13:08


Originally Posted by Tinstaafl (Post 9198077)
How does one cyber attack a rock on a chain hung out in an exposed area?

By intercepting the webcam feed and replacing it with video of another rock on a chain, in a completely different exposed area!


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