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Lsa 15th Sep 2015 06:57

Leaning a 233
 
The book says to lean a O-233 Lycoming to max revs at a particular throttle setting. I have tried leaving it at WOT and controlling cruise revs with mixture.
EGTs around 1300, with lower CHTs. Engine runs smooth and has dual electronic ignition. Anyone see a problem with this?

Ultralights 15th Sep 2015 07:46

nope..

but increasing mixture to pick up revs might not be the best idea.

FoolCorsePich 15th Sep 2015 08:23

Being electronic injection does it have knock sensors and variable timing?

Aussie Bob 15th Sep 2015 08:51

Do you have an engine monitor? I do and I find with my engine (O360) that having the throttle cracked back a bit from wide open results in a much better distribution of fuel to all cylinders. A whisker of carby heat sometimes helps this too.

Jabawocky 15th Sep 2015 13:32

2 out of 3 posters so far know what I am about to say.

PM me :ok:

Jabawocky 15th Sep 2015 23:06

FCP

Being electronic injection does it have knock sensors and variable timing?
It has none of these. And knock sensors don't do to well on these engines ;)

FoolCorsePich 15th Sep 2015 23:14

If it has none of those things then whats the advantage (Other than weight?) of electronic ignition?

Lsa 16th Sep 2015 02:30

Leaning a O-233
 
The main advantage is it has a much higher energy spark that can only be utilized by using automotive plugs. Timing is also variable via MAP.

Andy_RR 16th Sep 2015 02:54

electronic ignition also is much more repeatable over the long term compared with (traditional) mags and allows optimizing ignition for starting as well as speed and load-dependent advance.

FoolCorsePich 16th Sep 2015 03:30


as well as speed and load-dependent advance.
Ol' m8 just said it didn't have variable ignition timing in this case.

Jabawocky 16th Sep 2015 05:48

LSA

Is the Lycoming O-233 actually using a MAP derived spark timing controller? I did not think they were? Or have you added one?

Lsa 16th Sep 2015 06:39

Leaning a O-233
 
Sorry, I am using the Lightspeed Ignition.

RadioSaigon 17th Sep 2015 05:54

Not certain about the 233, but some (many?) old Lycosauruses and Conti's had a non-selectable full-rich mixture at wide-open throttle. It was always necessary with those engines to back the throttle off a ways before attempting any leaning.

Jabawocky 17th Sep 2015 07:23

I would not want to be WOT at FL170 in one then :eek:

You sure about that? I am not saying never, but I have never seen such a thing or even heard of it.

Andy_RR 17th Sep 2015 10:44


Originally Posted by Jabawocky (Post 9119339)
I would not want to be WOT at FL170 in one then :eek:

Well, clearly it's unlikely you'd make it to FL170 before it began to misfire...

RadioSaigon 17th Sep 2015 11:09


Originally Posted by Jabawocky
You sure about that? I am not saying never, but I have never seen such a thing or even heard of it...

Don't take my word for it -it's a pretty well-documented fact. A Google search should throw it up... from memory, I think Mike Busch wrote an article on it, but it's been a long time since I could muster the enthusiasm to look ;-)
In my experience, usually only on fixed-pitch aircraft. Pick a 172, any one will do, keep an eye on the EGT and you'll see it for yourself.

Jabawocky 17th Sep 2015 12:56

RS

I reckon you are thinking about the enrichment circuit that givens a higher flow when at full throttle. Back it off a fraction and that circuit is closed.

That exists, but you can still lean the mixture at WOT. :ok:


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