PA28 - 150 versus a PA28 - 140 Aircraft flight differences
 

Hi,
I regularly fly a PA28-150 but have the opportunity to fly PA28 – 140 in the next few weeks and was wondering if anyone had any advice about the aircraft besides reading the POH. I understand it has the “heresy” wings fitted.
PV

PT,
It's just another aeroplane.
Tootle pip!!
PS: What are "heresy" wings??

The PA-28-140 won't pull the skin off a rice custard and the 150hp version won't do it a whole lot better. Heresy = Hershy bar.

Both only fly due to the curvature of the earth...

Folks,
Don't be too tough on the various PA28, compared with the competition of the day, they were pretty good, we are talking fifty (50) years ago.
Most any aircraft of the era are "Mk1 Ground Grippers" on a hot day. There were a lot worse than the PA-28.
Tootle pip!!

LeadSled, this is a bit of a thread drift, so my apologies, but the PA28-236 is a cracker. Never really warmed to the -150 as anything other than a trainer. But the Dakota is a really sensible cruising aeroplane.

You say PA28-150 do you mean the PA28-151? By your reference to the hershy bar wing on the PA28-140 it makes me think you're referring to the PA28-151 Warrior I as your regular ride. Does it have the semi tapered wing?

I don't think there was ever a Cherokee with the official designation of PA28-150 though some -140 models quite likely had higher horsepower engines fitted at overhaul and may have been called -150

The older hershy bar wing Cherokees were -140, -160, -180, the later Cherokees with the semi tapered wing were -151, -161, -181.

If the wings are different you need to be aware the hershy bar model will not float like the tapered wing tends to do on landing. Also if you get a bit slow the landing will be more of an arrival than it would be with the tapered wing.

The 140's with the exception of the very last models (identifiable by where the trim wheel is located, on the older one's it's on the roof, on the later ones it is between the seats) have a shorter fuselage, which means the cabin is shorter with less leg room in the back seat and they have a smaller door. These ones are really a 2+2 and not truly a four seater.

I'd certainly think twice and twice again before putting more than the equivalent of three adults into a PA28-140.

I think the elevator on the -140 era Cherokees is not as wide as the later Cherokees making it less effective.

Other wise fly it like a Cherokee. The -140 is no rocket ship but still a nice aircraft to fly.

The first production PA28 was 150HP

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Yes. According to The International Directory of Civil Aircraft the initial PA 28 150 was introduced in 1961. The PA 28 140 entered the marketplace in 1964.


Red

Folks,
The first PA28 I flew (and the first in UK, I think, G-ARSY --- easy to remember rego.) was a -150. There is a common STC engine mod. to increase the nominal (very nominal) HP to 160hp.
Had a dead cut on T/O at YSBK in a -235 many moons ago. Off 29, had enough height going past the old RACNSW to "turn back" (sort of) and land on the 05 grass.
Ahhhhhh!! the good old days.
Tootle pip!!

I believe they did. Pity Piper didn't keep them on all of the models.

Ah yes, the PA 28-140. `Fond` memories of one such aircraft, VH-RRU (otherwise known as Rocket Romeo Uniform.:}:rolleyes:)

Did all my PPl training and the early part of my CPL in that particular machine!:ooh:

The rest of the CPL was done in a Seneca 1 (VH-MEP:eek:)

Seriously; RRU was a good training aircraft. And if you could land one smoothly you were doing well.:ok: However, climbing out of RW 26 at Waikerie on a 40C+ day did make for a bit of a pucker factor!

RW 02 was worse though!:eek::eek:

Nearly every Pa28 140 is actually powered by 150hp. The 140 was simply retained as a model number. You will also find that many 140's have their 150hp bumped up to 160 by a STC. The extra few ponies do make a significant difference.